kavandje Posted May 25, 2014 Share #81 Posted May 25, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yep.... I think the M-A has a different finder..A Photo Visual Library on Leica MP Classic outfit - Part V - MIR Image Library What do you mean? Holding my MP Classic up to the picture of the MA on the 1st page of this thread: They actually look pretty much the same, unless the MA has a different magnification or framelines. Mine's a plain-vanilla .72 with all the framelines. The difference to the normal MP is, externally, that the silvered stripe at the bottom of the front main window where the meter is projected is simply not there. That's something I also see on the MA. I'd be interested to see what they did on the back. The MP classic has a frankly useless ISO reminder plate. I'd far prefer something like the M2, where I can actually set something instead of resorting to drawing a circle around the ISO of the film I'm using with a permanent marker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 25, 2014 Share #82 Posted May 25, 2014 <Frowns>... (The use of "analog" in place of film irritates me.) Pete. But then, they should call "digital" cameras "sensor" cameras instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 25, 2014 Share #83 Posted May 25, 2014 Except for the rewind crank, how is this different from an M4? Different advance and preview lever, and the M4 had a self-timer, too. The body cover is different, and the chassis material is different. I think, but not sure, that the frame-lines are different, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 25, 2014 Share #84 Posted May 25, 2014 But then, they should call "digital" cameras "sensor" cameras instead. Or memory card cameras…cards replaced film for storage. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted May 25, 2014 Share #85 Posted May 25, 2014 it looks nice but what's the problem with a a used analog M?My M3 is still looking good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 25, 2014 Share #86 Posted May 25, 2014 My M3 is still looking good. I'm thinking mine has gone up in value! To me, at least ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted May 26, 2014 Share #87 Posted May 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) But then, they should call "digital" cameras "sensor" cameras instead. They called it "Electronic", as in M-E. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 27, 2014 Share #88 Posted May 27, 2014 Amateur Photographer quotes a price of €40,000 for the kit. From my basic maths of adding up the price of an MP and the three lenses, the total is around €22,000 so you are paying a lot for the tin box. A collectors’ special. You can sit and stroke it along with your white M8 and Audi M9 special. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2014 Share #89 Posted May 27, 2014 Amateur Photographer quotes a price of €40,000 for the kit. From my basic maths of adding up the price of an MP and the three lenses, the total is around €22,000 so you are paying a lot for the tin box. A collectors’ special. You can sit and stroke it along with your white M8 and Audi M9 special. Wilson Add €104000 and then the original price quote was quite accurate... EDIT: See lot #100: http://www.westlicht-auction.com/fileadmin/results/100_years_of_leica_-_result-list.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 27, 2014 Share #90 Posted May 27, 2014 Add €104000 and then the original price quote was quite accurate... EDIT: See lot #100: http://www.westlicht-auction.com/fileadmin/results/100_years_of_leica_-_result-list.pdf Auction fever? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 27, 2014 Share #91 Posted May 27, 2014 What does the "-A" stand for? Clearly, the first of a new series of M film cameras !!! B, C... to follow... long life to film ! If they make a standard listed product (not a "special" only), they'll end up with a product line with TWO Digitals (M and MM) and THREE Film (M7 - AE, MP - metered, M A - fully manual) , which is noticeable... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 27, 2014 Share #92 Posted May 27, 2014 What do you mean? Holding my MP Classic up to the picture of the MA on the 1st page of this thread: They actually look pretty much the same, unless the MA has a different magnification or framelines. Mine's a plain-vanilla .72 with all the framelines. The difference to the normal MP is, externally, that the silvered stripe at the bottom of the front main window where the meter is projected is simply not there. That's something I also see on the MA. I'd be interested to see what they did on the back. The MP classic has a frankly useless ISO reminder plate. I'd far prefer something like the M2, where I can actually set something instead of resorting to drawing a circle around the ISO of the film I'm using with a permanent marker. I meant simply that I haven't read anywhere how is the finder/framelines of the M-A... I doubt they will provide a' la carte choice like in M7-MP... but had the idea (just a speculation) that being announced together with a new 28, maybe it has a VF "optimized" for it... a 0.58 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted May 31, 2014 Share #93 Posted May 31, 2014 I'm disappointed too. If they make a camera without a meter it should have been a working Ur-Leica. The 100 year logo lead me to expect it. It could have been a digital but without a screen on the back then you have to wait until you "develop" the images on your computer before you see what you have. Maybe have no SD card either but built in memory for ~40 photos and a wifi link to send them to your phone,pad,or computer for developing. That way digital will have the same excitement as film as you have to "use the 40 shots" before you can download the pics. That might be a relatively cheap digital camera APS-C with manual focus "50mm" lens equivalent a bit like a digital minilux but with a normal 50mm viewfinder. You set the ISO the shutter speed, aperture, and the focus , by guessing, then fire the shutter what else do you need? Regards, Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 1, 2014 Share #94 Posted June 1, 2014 Even better, no shutter release at all! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted June 2, 2014 Share #95 Posted June 2, 2014 I've ordered a set through my dealer and this will not be a shelf queen. Life is for living. Cram in as much as possible so you don't have regrets on your death bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Fanatic Posted June 9, 2014 Share #96 Posted June 9, 2014 <Frowns> "-Analog" perhaps, Philip? (The use of "analog" in place of film irritates me.) Pete. At least they didn't call it 'Classic' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik Posted June 9, 2014 Share #97 Posted June 9, 2014 <Frowns> "-Analog" perhaps, Philip? (The use of "analog" in place of film irritates me.) Pete. Especially as the image capturing process on the sensor is analog while the capturing process on film is "digital" (either a silver halogenide crystal is activated or not, "one" or "zero"). Ulrik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 10, 2014 Share #98 Posted June 10, 2014 while the capturing process on film is "digital" (either a silver halogenide crystal is activated or not, "one" or "zero"). This explains otherwise. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Fanatic Posted June 10, 2014 Share #99 Posted June 10, 2014 This explains otherwise. Jeff Did my best to follow what they were saying despite the big words. Think I understand. :0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted June 11, 2014 Share #100 Posted June 11, 2014 I've ordered a set through my dealer and this will not be a shelf queen. Life is for living. Cram in as much as possible so you don't have regrets on your death bed. We await your upcoming camera porn with bated breath! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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