adli Posted May 18, 2014 Share #21 Posted May 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) For travels longer than a weekend, I bring my Macbook Pro Retina and a Lacie Rugged Disc for back up. The Retina version of the Macbook weights less than the ordinary version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sgm311 Posted May 19, 2014 Share #22 Posted May 19, 2014 For short travel times about 3-5 days, I'd just bring extra sd card. Anytime more then a week, I'm bringing my retina mbp and 1tb hard drive just to be safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted May 19, 2014 Share #23 Posted May 19, 2014 you can get hard drives where you can plug the sd card and it downloads everything on the card automatically. that's what i use. takes CF cards, sd, xd sony memory stick, all sorts. no need for laptops or tablets. unless you want to have one with you. which i do not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted May 20, 2014 Share #24 Posted May 20, 2014 11" MacBook Air, 750 GB Verbatim portable pocket sized HD,card reader. Backup the cards to the Air and to the Verbatim. This would be a minimum for a short trip. On a longer trip I would want a Macbook Pro Retina, 15". I would want the larger, higher quality screen, to be able to do Photoshop corrections. I also need to add a lot of metadata. The bigger the computer, the easier it is to do a lot of work on. The more I get done in the field, the less I have to do when I return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted May 20, 2014 Share #25 Posted May 20, 2014 MacBook Air with Lightroom. I will still keep the files on SD cards as a backup. Post processing on an ipad is just too cumbersome and constraining for me and a MacBook Air is only marginally bulkier than an ipad. Generally I have some time at the end of the day or early morning to import, assign keywords, rate, cull and do some editing. When I get home I export as DNGs and then import into my main LR library where they are now instantly integrated. This saves so much time after I get home vs keeping the images on SD cards for later PP. It also gives me an inherent file backup by keeping the files on SD. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted May 21, 2014 Share #26 Posted May 21, 2014 What do people do while travelling for weeks at a time to:- store, review/cull and back-up images. - do enough pp to post to websites & forums. I can store images by just having enough SD cards, but that doesn't help with reviewing. I could download to an iPad, and it probably has enough apps for pp, but I find file management on iOS impenetrable. . iPad is a waste of time for many reasons. I recommend a small windows 8 laptop with at least a 500gb hard disk and SD slot. For example, in the UK, there is a tiny packard bell in pc world for £229 now and quad core CPU. If you want to edit on the road its more expensive. I carry a 13" Lenovo Yoga. Its light and has a great screen, however they have SSDs so I use a small external hard disk of 2TB. Its annoying carrying two things but the latest ultrabooks all have SSDs which are too low a capacity. Lastly I tend not to erase SD cards on holiday. So I take enough 64gb or 128gb ones that they will take all my photos (I only record raw, not JPG+raw) as well as backing them up to hard disk. Additionally I upload my "top" pictures to flickr (not publically viewable). So everything is stored twice and the some key pictures are stored 3 times. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share #27 Posted June 4, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) An update after a two week trip..... I confirmed to myself that an iPad is not the solution. I ran out of space on a 64Gb iPad after a week, and I could not find an app that would satisfactorily read, edit and resize images. Nor could I easily work out where unedited and edited dng and jpg files were stored. And, of course, I am now starting editing all over again on my PC now I've got home. An issue I hadn't foreseen is that, probably because I was shooting in both raw and jpg (with the aim of loading the JPGs onto the iPad), the M240 response time at start up and wake up was distinctly slower. I need a solution that is based just on DNGs. My next step is to try my wife's MacBook Air with 13" screen and Lightroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted June 4, 2014 Share #28 Posted June 4, 2014 An update after a two week trip..... I confirmed to myself that an iPad is not the solution. I ran out of space on a 64Gb iPad after a week, and I could not find an app that would satisfactorily read, edit and resize images. Nor could I easily work out where unedited and edited dng and jpg files were stored. And, of course, I am now starting editing all over again on my PC now I've got home. An issue I hadn't foreseen is that, probably because I was shooting in both raw and jpg (with the aim of loading the JPGs onto the iPad), the M240 response time at start up and wake up was distinctly slower. I need a solution that is based just on DNGs. My next step is to try my wife's MacBook Air with 13" screen and Lightroom. I think you'll find the MacBook Air/Lightroom solution to be satisfactory. The only problem I can see is SSD space, in which case you can bring along a small external HD. It hasn't been a problem for me as my MacBook Air isn't my main image editing computer, I think I must not take as many images as some who are suggesting 500GB hard drives and I generally cull files while traveling every couple days. I also keep a copy of Photoshop on my MacBook Air so I can do heavy editing while traveling, on the plane, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreed2754 Posted June 4, 2014 Share #29 Posted June 4, 2014 Paul -- as some of us suggested MacBook Air with larger drive that takes SD cards is a great solution. Easy to load and view files while traveling plus backups. Keep SD cards as originals to load onto PC when come home. Most of us haven't found the iPad suitable as you found out. And no need to shoot DNG + JPEG. I"m going for a week and will be shooting concerts and Master Classes in Ann Arbor then off to Grand Haven where have an old family cottage on Lake Michigan before going to sister-in-law's horse farm for shots there. Will just take few SD cards. Trip later in June to Alaska will take MacBook Air. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berth Posted June 4, 2014 Share #30 Posted June 4, 2014 I have a MacBook Pro with a 768Gb SSD which provides plenty of room, but won't be taking it for my 2 week trip next month. For that I've acquired an iPad Mini with 128Gb which will fit easily into my Hadley Small. 128Gb is plenty I think for temporary storage my M-E images which I shoot in DNG only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 4, 2014 Share #31 Posted June 4, 2014 You will have trouble viewing your files on that iPad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted June 4, 2014 Share #32 Posted June 4, 2014 15" MBP travels with me everywhere. Its small, light and powerful. It is the ultimate travel darkroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted June 4, 2014 Share #33 Posted June 4, 2014 We all have our own ideas of what is right for travel and it is often based on what is needed during travels. I do process images for use during extended trips and use my 11" air with LR. It was an early 11" air and as such has only 4GB ram which I wish were 8GB as is offered now and will upgrade when a light weight Apple is offered with 16GB. I recently switched from twin 480 SSD backup devices to the new Sandfisk 128GB flash drives which transfer at 250 rates. They are very fast. I set up folders by location on one drive plus a backup drive for off loading DNG files from SD cards which I usually carry 10 of in 64GB size. I keep the originals on the Sd cards as long as possible. In this case I have triple copies of each image. To some this may seem excessive, but just recently I had two SSD drives go out on one trip with only the original SD cards left.One never knows when it will happen, but be assured it will eventually happen. Then I use more of these fast 128GB drives for LR catalogs into which I import the images and then process from. So far so good on this 6 week trip which will produce 5 to 8k images. Was just on Omaha Beach today with a 91 year old vet who took out a german observation bunker during the assault. He got two Purple Stars in one day 70 years ago. He has had recurring nightmares about that day for 50 years he told me. That man made this trip for me all worth while and I have 10 more days remaining. NBC news will soon release a story about this man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted June 4, 2014 Share #34 Posted June 4, 2014 MacBook Air and a pile of SD cards. Not erasing cards provides backup, and LR for minimal work until I get home. Like others, I find this approach fully satisfactory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berth Posted June 4, 2014 Share #35 Posted June 4, 2014 You will have trouble viewing your files on that iPad. Actually the images are displayed pretty well, I have the Retina display model. But I'm not planning to use the iPad Mini for anything other than temporary storage after deleting grossly deficit unsalvageable photos. Final processing & editing will be take place on my computer when I get home. I don't want to spend my evenings on my trip in front of a computer screen. There is wine to be tasted, cuisine to be savored, music to be enjoyed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share #36 Posted June 7, 2014 I've loaded LR on my wife's 13" MacBook Air, but having seen her document management practices () I feel inclined to keep my own LR catalogue (travel version) on a compact external drive for safety, then transfer the contents to my PC when I get home. Does anyone else do this, or are there performance constraints that make it better to keep your catalogue on the laptop, and simply export or copy the catalogue when you get home? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woorob Posted June 7, 2014 Share #37 Posted June 7, 2014 My travel over the past 5 or 6 years has periodically involved overseas photo shoots where I want to tag, process and otherwise deal with my results on the road. I also use three different PCs on a regular basis (office, home and home office), each one with LR and PS, so I faced some real issues when first establishing and later maintaining my LR catalog (now over 60,000 images). About six or seven years ago, back in the early days of professional use of full frame digital DSLRs, a friend of mine who worked for Adobe mentioned that Jeff Schewe had prepared a white paper on how he managed images on a shoot in Antarctica. I found the document, read it carefully, and established the architecture of my system based on his insightful and excellent recommendations. You might still be able to find the paper with a Google search. In any event, my Lightroom catalogue and my main body of photo files reside on a terabyte external hard drive from Western Digital, and not on a laptop or desktop computer. This allows me to use Lightroom and Photoshop seamlessly on each of my PCs (by simply plugging the HD into a USB slot on the computer I happen to be using at the time). I've never noticed any speed issues (the hard drive uses a USB 3.0 connection). I regularly back the HD up to three other sources and replace it every other year, always for one with greater storage capacity. When traveling I bring the external HD and a ThinkPad X201 running Windows 7 with a lot of RAM and an encrypted 500GB SSD internal hard drive. I can carry this, my M, three or four lenses, a Leica flash, a Sony RX-100 and a bunch of other stuff in a Think Tank Urban Disguise 35 case -- a discreet and very compact package that fits under any airplane seat, is well made, closes up securely and is easy to carry. Over six years and more than thirty international trips later (which has included regular business trips as well), I've never lost a file or damaged any equipment. Quite happy with this setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted June 7, 2014 Share #38 Posted June 7, 2014 I recently picked up a fully loaded 11" MacBook Air and love it. I go a 13" with 4GB ram and the i5 processor and it didn't work for me. If you're looking at the 13" I'd, personally consier going for the Pro. I gave the 13" to my son and got the 11" with i7 processor, 500GB drive and 8GB of ram. It's fabulous. The only downside as a travel machine is the lack of an inbuilt card slot. It's not a huge pain as I backup to a Hyperdrive and then copy to the Air from that. I like to have three copies of each file. Cards, Hyperdrive, Air. On longer trips where I'm in a vehicle I take my 17" MacBook Pro with 16GB ram and a 1TB SSD. However I'm so pleased with the Air that of late I've been leaving the larger machine at home anyway. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted June 8, 2014 Share #39 Posted June 8, 2014 I've loaded LR on my wife's 13" MacBook Air, but having seen her document management practices () I feel inclined to keep my own LR catalogue (travel version) on a compact external drive for safety, then transfer the contents to my PC when I get home. Does anyone else do this, or are there performance constraints that make it better to keep your catalogue on the laptop, and simply export or copy the catalogue when you get home? I don't think you'll have a problem with performance if you're just using LR and not heavy PS usage. It will perform better if you get a Thunderbolt drive and use a Thunderbolt Port. What I do is just keep a separate LR catalog on my Macbook Air. At the end of the trip, I select all the photos I want to transfer to my main desktop LR catalog and export as DNG to an SD card. Then import the DNG''s into my permanent catalog as DNG's. It retains all the edits, keywords, history, tagging, etc... that you have already done.Make sure to toggle "embed raw file" at export so you can always revert to the raw file if you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted June 8, 2014 Share #40 Posted June 8, 2014 Excellent comments! Very good to read what others do. As I mentioned I have recently started using Sandisk 128GB flash drives for catalog storage while traveling. These are not cheap, but are faster than anything I have used in the past including SSD external drives since these new drives have 250 read and write speeds. They cost US$150 each at B&H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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