jdlaing Posted May 1, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has the DNG Leica RAW file format changed from the M-9? The reason I ask is I started using a digital file device where I transfer the photos to it from my SD cards while traveling. The DNG files transfer okay but are not visible on the device's LCD screen if I set the M to record RAW only. If I set it to RAW +JPEG fine it works. I thought there was an embedded JPEG in the raw file for that purpose. The other RAW format I use from time to,time is ORF and that works okay. When I transfer to,the computer (Lightroom) the RAW + JPEG fine it works okay. When I try to transfer a plain RAW file from the device Lightroom doesn't see the file but it is on the device. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted May 2, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 2, 2014 There should not be a problem - unless the files are too large for your device to handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted May 2, 2014 There should not be a problem - unless the files are too large for your device to handle. Possible! But isn't there an embedded JPEG in the DNG without having to set the camera for DNG/JPEG and shooting only RAW? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 2, 2014 Share #4 Posted May 2, 2014 Possible! But isn't there an embedded JPEG in the DNG without having to set the camera for DNG/JPEG and shooting only RAW? Yeah, but something has to read the side car. What is the "device" you are using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah, but something has to read the side car. What is the "device" you are using? A Digital Photo Vault. The list of supported files includes DNG. You put the card in a slot and it transfers the files to the memory and has a LCD screen to view the files. Reads all kinds of cards. The only ones that will not show are the RAW files from the M-240. RAW files from other cameras work fine. When I set the camera for RAW only the file is transferred into the memory in the divide but the picture won't show on the LCD. Only a garbled mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 2, 2014 Share #6 Posted May 2, 2014 Could you provide a link to the product? Here is what I suspect. These products don't always support DNG format of storing our M files. So, even though the DNG format has a preview jpg file in the container, the product you have may not be able to extract it from the DNG file. Although, when you store your M photo as a DNG + jpg, the storage device can both store the DNG portion and read the separate jpg file that is created by the M. I would just tell the M to store DNG + jpg in a low resolution so you can view your files on your Photo Vault. That seems to be the only way to work this device you have. You will have a DNG backed up and a viewable jpg. You can discard the jpg when you get home. Is this what you are asking? Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted May 2, 2014 Share #7 Posted May 2, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't know the product you're using, but maybe updating it's firmware could help? It may be worth it to send a mail to their support service. sent from a phone with auto-correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 2, 2014 Share #8 Posted May 2, 2014 A Digital Photo Vault. The list of supported files includes DNG. You put the card in a slot and it transfers the files to the memory and has a LCD screen to view the files. Reads all kinds of cards. The only ones that will not show are the RAW files from the M-240. RAW files from other cameras work fine. When I set the camera for RAW only the file is transferred into the memory in the divide but the picture won't show on the LCD. Only a garbled mess. DNG is a rather versatile raw format so many manufacturers do not include the more obscure features. It took Apple nearly a year to implement MM DNGs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 2, 2014 Share #9 Posted May 2, 2014 Is it something like this ? Album Portable Digital Photo Book - Digital Camera Warehouse I was vaguley thinking to buy one... but think that, at the end, you probably can get similar functions with some app for tablets... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted May 2, 2014 Digital Foci - Digital Foci | Picture Porter 35 And here are the supported files: Digital Foci - Picture Porter 35: Raw support I got it as a gift a while back. I'm off on a road trip Monday and didn't want to carry my notebook with me so I thought I'd give it a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 2, 2014 Share #11 Posted May 2, 2014 The M9 was using DNG 1.0 format while the M (Typ 240) now is using DNG 1.3. Maybe your image-storing device can handle the former but not the latter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted May 2, 2014 The M9 was using DNG 1.0 format while the M (Typ 240) now is using DNG 1.3. Maybe your image-storing device can handle the former but not the latter? Looks that way. It stores the photos great but I just can't preview them on the screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chmilar Posted May 2, 2014 Share #13 Posted May 2, 2014 If you are setting the M to DNGc (ie. compressed DNG), have you tried setting it to uncompressed DNG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted May 2, 2014 If you are setting the M to DNGc (ie. compressed DNG), have you tried setting it to uncompressed DNG? Yes. No soap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted May 2, 2014 Share #15 Posted May 2, 2014 The embedded preview in the M9 and M dng files is tiny. So unless the device reads the DNG data, which very few actually do, you'll get a tiny thubnail or nothing at all. Olympus ORF files have a large embedded preview, so ypu can see those. Exactly why I shoot DNG plus jpeg on Leica. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted May 5, 2014 Share #16 Posted May 5, 2014 Can you obtain a firmware update for your device. Perhaps it just needs a FW update? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted May 5, 2014 Share #17 Posted May 5, 2014 My Sanho Hyperdrive can read jpegs all day, but not RAW files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share #18 Posted May 5, 2014 Can you obtain a firmware update for your device. Perhaps it just needs a FW update? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Not available. Yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George89 Posted December 19, 2016 Share #19 Posted December 19, 2016 Is it something like this ? Album Portable Digital Photo Book - Digital Camera Warehouse I was vaguley thinking to buy one... but think that, at the end, you probably can get similar functions with some app for tablets... To be honest, I also think that tablet can do most of this things, sure, it's not the same, but 250-300$ for photo book for someone who is amateur and not use those thing for professional purpose, I don't think it's necessary ... Look at this https://www.camera-warehouse.com.au/album-leather-tan-natural-aluminium same one that you're saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 19, 2016 Share #20 Posted December 19, 2016 Are you aware that you are replying to a 2 1/2 year old thread? Things digital, like raw support on devices, have moved on since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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