earleygallery Posted April 28, 2014 Share #1 Posted April 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I can imagine if Leica build on the T design elements, the next M could look like this; Aluminum body Touch screen interface with one or two dials on the top plate Clip on EVF - time to drop the rangefinder New or revised 'M' mount and new range of M AF lenses (but legacy M lenses will fit of course) If Leica attract new customers with the T they need another product for those customers to aspire to. I can't imagine the new customers going from a T to an M as we know it, so they must surely have something like this in their pipeline. Discuss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted April 28, 2014 Share #2 Posted April 28, 2014 T isn’t M. M isn’t T. That’s the idea. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted April 28, 2014 Of course, but the point I'm raising is if the design elements will form the basis of a future M camera. At some point Leica will surely move to an AF system for their flagship camera. They didn't stick to MF for the S range after all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyasi Posted April 28, 2014 Share #4 Posted April 28, 2014 I didn't have quite your concept in mind, but I was wondering whether we might see Leica M and other camera manufacturers emulate the software interface, which looks to be the most interesting aspect of the T. From the photographs, it appears theT moves away from menus as we have known them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted April 28, 2014 Share #5 Posted April 28, 2014 Of course, but the point I'm raising is if the design elements will form the basis of a future M camera. Maybe, but I trust the M will always stay a rangefinder camera. No AF for the M, ever. And that’s fine. The point of having different lines of products is to have different products for different customers with different needs. Not just variations on the same theme differing just in sensor size. The T is designed to appeal to people who have never and will never consider a rangefinder – assuming they even know what a rangefinder is. But that doesn’t invalidate the rangefinder concept nor does it suggest that the M should become a travesty of itself. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted April 28, 2014 Share #6 Posted April 28, 2014 I can imagine if Leica build on the T design elements, the next M could look like this; Aluminum body Touch screen interface with one or two dials on the top plate Clip on EVF - time to drop the rangefinder New or revised 'M' mount and new range of M AF lenses (but legacy M lenses will fit of course) If Leica attract new customers with the T they need another product for those customers to aspire to. I can't imagine the new customers going from a T to an M as we know it, so they must surely have something like this in their pipeline. Discuss. Wouldn't mind the touchscreen, wouldn't mind an extra dial if it means I can instantly read at what iso and what shutter speed my camera is in without having to look at the lcd. Never been a fan of evf, although at the same time I must admit I only have experience with the one for my M240 and the build in evf of a Minolta Dimage 7Hi which I had over ten years ago. One of the main reasons I now use the M for analog and film as well is because of it's rangefinder and manual focussing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted April 28, 2014 Share #7 Posted April 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm going to bet you'll see some of the elements filter across. I mean the M has influenced the X so it's to like it hasn't already been done. The UI is slick and I'm sure will translate to the M. I'm also almost certain you also see other brands influenced by the T. I think it's going to be a seminal design. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted April 28, 2014 Share #8 Posted April 28, 2014 Wouldn't mind the touchscreen, wouldn't mind an extra dial if it means I can instantly read at what iso and what shutter speed my camera is in without having to look at the lcd. I would prefer just one dial controlling either shutter speed (in M mode) or exposure correction (in A mode). I usually don’t change ISO while shooting, but if people want another dial for ISO or whatever, I wouldn’t be opposed to that. As to using a touchscreen in preference to the dedicated buttons, I had no objections either. Apart from that, the existing lenses pretty much dictate that the M will stay a manually focused rangefinder camera. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisRose Posted April 28, 2014 Share #9 Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) The only thing I would like to see move onto the next M, is the snap on neck strap system, that's some particularly excellent design. But drop the rangefinder?? Are you kidding? Edited April 28, 2014 by CrisRose 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted April 28, 2014 Share #10 Posted April 28, 2014 The only thing I would like to see move onto the next M, is the snap on neck strap system, that's some particularly excellent design. Yes, I hope we will see that system adopted across the board. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted April 28, 2014 Share #11 Posted April 28, 2014 Whatever they do, please please no touch screens. I hate touch screens. 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted April 28, 2014 Maybe, but I trust the M will always stay a rangefinder camera. No AF for the M, ever. You should never say never Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted April 28, 2014 Share #13 Posted April 28, 2014 Oh great, in ten years time Leica have ditched the rangefinder and film has been discontinued. I'm so doomed! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted April 28, 2014 Share #14 Posted April 28, 2014 I'm concerned that those of is that use our left eye will find the touch screen a problem as our nose touches the LCD. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 28, 2014 Share #15 Posted April 28, 2014 In another related thread, I referenced Puts' take on the design importance and possible trend, citing my own distaste for touchscreen interface. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted April 28, 2014 Share #16 Posted April 28, 2014 Of course, but the point I'm raising is if the design elements will form the basis of a future M camera I think it's more likely that the design elements will result in a range of T cameras sharing the same AF mount. One with a built in EVF and another with an optical viewfinder are the two obvious candidates IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chito Posted April 28, 2014 Share #17 Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) I really doubt that they would do this. We all know M stands for rangefinder. No rangefinder, no M.. They could call it something else, there are several more letters in the alphabet. I guess I can imagine a future M with electrical contacts, and M-lenses that could AF but mostly for Tele and macro. And also, no clip on EVF... Please be integrated and hybrid like the X100. Can anybody imagine autofocusing M lenses? They would be huge, just like E mount full frame lenses. Edited April 28, 2014 by Chito Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannybuoy Posted April 28, 2014 Share #18 Posted April 28, 2014 The current M with EVF akin to the Fuji X-T1's with optional OVF, same top controls but with a touchscreen for those who are comfortable with this style of use. That would be a pretty great camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chito Posted April 28, 2014 Share #19 Posted April 28, 2014 I'm also willing to bet that the next M will look pretty much like all the previous Ms. The closest the M can get to "T" like and still look like an M is the Jony Ive dressed Leica M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 28, 2014 Share #20 Posted April 28, 2014 The next M will not be a T anything. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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