Berth Posted April 8, 2014 Share #21 Posted April 8, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can i suggest something a bit smaller ? i have a few CPS versions of the Industry Disgrace strap (red with canon eos branding) and it is a great strap, well padded and very comfy, but it is overkill for an M, and folded up, the big neoprene neck bit will be an M sized bundle. will grab some pics of mine with my M tommorow for you to compare. and the blackrapid straps have a rubber washer to hold the bolt tight, they are actually a very comfortable way to carry a camera, I used one all the time on my work Canons, and still do when shooting out of a helicopter or when i need a safety strap, for day to day use i have a set of Spiderholsters. I wouldnt use either system on the M though, i feel the M is best suited to a narrow nylon webbing strap - my M is wearing a modded stock strap, i cut the ends off and added a 1" nylon webbing through the middle, replacing the rubber pad FWIW - you are more likely to have the blackrapid clip undo itself than have the bolt unthread i havent had a bolt come loose yet, but have dropped a 70-200, and almost dropped a 1d/16-35 when the clip "capsized" and opened the gate Like the Blackrapid, the SniperPro all attaches to the tripod hole. It differs in that there's no clip, the screw is permanently mounted to the strap. They are very comfortable to carry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Hi Berth, Take a look here Blackrapid revisit - on M240. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Echo63 Posted April 8, 2014 Share #22 Posted April 8, 2014 @Echo63, Your custom strap looks very similar to what I currently have on my M240: Domke 1" Web Camera Strap without Swivel (Black) 740-1BK This strap is narrow but it is not uncomfortable with an M. With a bulky DSLR and a bigger lens, it could be a different story. The Crumpler is big for an M camera, I will agree with that. The BlackRapid does have the rubber gasket to help keep the bolt from backing out, decreasing the chances of that happening. But the dealbreaker for me is the snap on the strap, which will let your camera freefall to the ground if it accidentally pops open. The R7 strap has the buckle on the backside of the strap, allowing a sneaky thief to come up from behind, unbuckle your strap and run with your camera and lens. That is a fatal design flaw in my view. In the end, I suppose I will either stick with my Domke or perhaps get a Luigi leather strap. That Domke does look very similar to my custom strap but is adjustable ! - i think i will stick with this one for a while though, its almost the same as the one i made for my X100 which has hardly worn. My blackrapid (a double version) has a cable tie (zip tie, tie wrap) through the clips so they cant come open ! I have carried a big DSLR on a 1" strap, it was not comfortable after 15 mins - the big comfy Crumpler or blackrapid is a much better choice for heavy gear (or dont carry a big SLR, thats why i switched to an M) I really dont like the carabiner clip that attaches to the tripod hole bolt on the blackrapid strap, it has sharp corners (cut my thumb twice) its heavy, scratches your camera and can unclip itself if the locking sleeve isnt screwed down, its also cheap pot metal that wears quickly Like the Blackrapid, the SniperPro all attaches to the tripod hole. It differs in that there's no clip, the screw is permanently mounted to the strap. They are very comfortable to carry. Sounds good ! I am done buying SLR straps though - the Spiderholster is perfect for me, i a.m very happy with mine, other than when working at height or around water, i still have the BR for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 8, 2014 Share #23 Posted April 8, 2014 … Have anyone else carry M using just one lug? .... I regularly carry my M with 50/1 Noctilux on an Annie Barton leather wrist strap. One of the leather links in the strap broke* on Sunday so the lug has outlived a leather strap (trying not to tempt fate here:o) (*I normally put some twists in the wrist strap to prevent it slipping off my wrist but that may have stressed the 'outside' links. It's a very comfortable and strong strap, which I've used extensively with a Canon 5D MkII with an 80 Summilux-R lens attached without a problem.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted April 8, 2014 Share #24 Posted April 8, 2014 I regularly carry my M with 50/1 Noctilux on an Annie Barton leather wrist strap...Pete. I found the Barton website - their straps look like they are well worth considering: BARTON 1972 Not hideously costly either, which is a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 8, 2014 Share #25 Posted April 8, 2014 I found the Barton website - their straps look like they are well worth considering: BARTON 1972 Not hideously costly either, which is a bonus. Surprisingly perhaps, The Dark Linky that I use isn't shown on their website so I've included a link to the strap on Red Dot Cameras's website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantice Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted April 9, 2014 Our fellow member Rolo has stories of people who have come off bikes ending up in wheelchairs through injuries sustained by heavy items in backpacks. I see... really appreciate for the advise and suggestion. Like Jeff suggest leaving nothing on the body while scootering. I tried out kdriceman's suggestion last night: it feels really great in terms of mobility and comfort but it does bounce around and I am worry about the single lug rigidity (compare to regular neck strap across shoulder). I also search a bit online, and seems like the quest for camera strap never ends BTW sorry for the ghostly photo - I gimp a bit to cover up my ugly body.. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/224829-blackrapid-revisit-on-m240/?do=findComment&comment=2565035'>More sharing options...
Mantice Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share #27 Posted April 9, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) And please, I wish to learn from those who took their M out in regular basis and push them into their maximum potentials, which means scratch, bump are to be expected. I'm looking for all the advise I can get and I have a leather bag I carry everyday for my documents and other stuffs to work. They hold up great but I feel that it isn't the bag I will take out hiking, climbing or into the canyons so I'm a bit suspicious about most leather straps may for Leica. By any means they are beautiful, just not for heavy duty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo63 Posted April 9, 2014 Share #28 Posted April 9, 2014 as promised - here is some comparison photos with my M and a Crumpler Industry Disgrace strap (Canon Pro Services Australia version) its a great strap for a big heavy SLR, but complete overkill for a little M (even with a big heavy lens) and is bulky compared to the little M body too in the 2nd and 3rd pics its folded into thirds Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/224829-blackrapid-revisit-on-m240/?do=findComment&comment=2565045'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted April 9, 2014 Share #29 Posted April 9, 2014 I use a Luigi leather wrist strap on my M most of the time while walking out of the city. That is comfortable for me, but I also worry about the stress on a single lug. I've been looking out for a wrist strap that has an additional security link to the other lug - a fine length of high tensile nylon, coated steel wire or something - so one lug failure wouldn't end in disaster. But I've found nothing yet. In the city, I use a small custom leather bag for camera and spare lens, but keep the wrist strap when I'm using the camera. On a separate note, you don't have to be riding a bike to get injured by a camera. I slipped on a steep wet grassy hillside and fell backwards onto my M + summicron 75 in a Domke canvas bag. The kit was OK, but I ended up with painful soft tissue bruising! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 9, 2014 Share #30 Posted April 9, 2014 I have two Luigi wrist straps. One with a conventional split ring (keyring) which is fine. The other one has a quick release clip, which is the only one of Luigi’s products, that I think is badly designed. The leather protective flap behind the clip, keeps slipping half over the clip and pushing it open, so that if you pick the camera up the wrong way, the strap will drop right off (or the camera off the strap). I keep meaning to send it back to him to have it altered to a normal split ring. Wilson PS I have just bought a titanium(ish) screw locking micro carabiner, which might do to replace the clip on the strap. If it does not work, it was only £2-30 incl. P&P. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/224829-blackrapid-revisit-on-m240/?do=findComment&comment=2565215'>More sharing options...
furcafe Posted April 9, 2014 Share #31 Posted April 9, 2014 There are many after-market straps that are more comfortable than the stock Leica. I also use Domke Grippers on many of my modern cameras, but I've found that metal split-rings seem to be pretty hard on the M 240's strap lugs. I'm not sure if it's they're made of a softer metal (I hope not) or if it's just because it's heavier than comparable film bodies. Either way, I've switched to corded straps from Lance (Lance Camera Straps | Customizable camera straps and accessories. Handmade in the USA.), which have the option of nylon loop connectors & that I had previously been using w/vintage cameras (Leica, Contax, etc.) w/soft strap lugs. I've found them to be comfortable w/my carry style ("bandolier" diagonally across chest), particularly in hot, humid, weather (though they're fine the rest of the year as well). The bigger Op/Tech straps also have a loop connector option, but I think they're overkill for smaller/lighter cameras (I use them on my medium format bodies). I have a 1" wide Domke Gripper strap on my M240 which works just fine, but I am thinking of getting one of these: Crumpler Industry Disgrace Camera Strap (Black) IDE001-B00000 I tried to wrap my head around using a BlackRapid strap on my M240. I just couldn't get comfortable with the concept of dangling my camera by a bolt that can back out of the tripod socket and result in a disasterous smashing of both camera and lens and I have no interest in checking the bolt's tightness every ten minutes to be on the safe side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantice Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share #32 Posted April 10, 2014 men's bra anyone? Amazon.com : Bushnell Deluxe Binocular Harness : Sports & Outdoors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted April 10, 2014 Share #33 Posted April 10, 2014 I have given up on all this nonsense. Neck straps, cross body straps, harnesses, etc. The finger loop on the MF handgrip does just fine. It reminds me of the sling from Leica goodies. If I need to put it down I can put it in my Billingham Bag or attach it to my Billingham belt loop via a hook from Leica goodies, but using the finger loops/sling, my camera is always in hand, ready to shoot. Not bouncing around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantice Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share #34 Posted April 10, 2014 I have given up on all this nonsense. Neck straps, cross body straps, harnesses, etc. The finger loop on the MF handgrip does just fine. I agree with you and had given it a serious thought. However I do need both hands quite often and I have thinktank modular system and backpack does the protection if carry along - still I would rather want a safer "strap" that is minimal and attach to my body somewhere and free myself from all sorts of "bags" while dangling around in any enviroment. I'm one of those weirdo that shoot landscape with M more often than people so that means more hiking in the woods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted April 10, 2014 Share #35 Posted April 10, 2014 Well I came to the realization that I always carry a second (or more) lens, so why not make space where I carry that, for the body, and it's lens. I like Billingham type shoulder bags, for the most part (though I have a nice benro sling bag for hiking). When I shoot, I shoot, I want my camera as fast as I think. For landscape I can take my time, but I hate bouncing cameras. Either I get bruised or the camera gets damaged, either way... Not fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 10, 2014 Share #36 Posted April 10, 2014 However one work around would be to attach the D-ring to the MF hand grip...Depending on the activity they can be a blessing or a curse. Bicycling is a problem as the camera dangles but walking, it's great. Most problems can be mitigated with a little forethought. One word of caution about the Leica hand grip and attaching too much to the tripod socket. I pulled the tripod socket right out of my M grip. DO NOT recommend using it for anything but tripod use and even then it has its limitations. Of course Leica replaced it, but just a word of caution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 10, 2014 Share #37 Posted April 10, 2014 Lou, I did wonder as the MF grip socket seems to be embedded, I think, in plastic not metal. Is this in accord with your experience? At least the main body socket seems more secure than the previous bottom cover sockets. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted April 11, 2014 Share #38 Posted April 11, 2014 I've used both a Black Rapid and a Sunsniper strap attached to the bottom of my camera for street/documentary shooting over the past three years. I think that the Sunsniper strap feels more comfortable. The strap is attached to whichever camera I'm using that day, an M, MM or S2, so that I can walk through the streets into very congested neighborhoods with my hands free and my camera ready at my hip. I've had no issues whatsoever in using the straps as they are intended and they are used quite extensively ... 2-3 hours on a daily basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 11, 2014 Share #39 Posted April 11, 2014 I have two Luigi wrist straps. One with a conventional split ring (keyring) which is fine. The other one has a quick release clip, which is the only one of Luigi’s products, that I think is badly designed. The leather protective flap behind the clip, keeps slipping half over the clip and pushing it open, so that if you pick the camera up the wrong way, the strap will drop right off (or the camera off the strap). I keep meaning to send it back to him to have it altered to a normal split ring. Wilson PS I have just bought a titanium(ish) screw locking micro carabiner, which might do to replace the clip on the strap. If it does not work, it was only £2-30 incl. P&P. I do not trust these mini snap fasteners to carry any weight. I have seen larger ones fail at the pivot point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 11, 2014 Share #40 Posted April 11, 2014 Robert caught me (and Pete) carrying the gear the way I usually do - just lengthened straps used bandolier style. I only use the Sun-strap to carry my heaviest combos with the screw in the tripod mount of the lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/224829-blackrapid-revisit-on-m240/?do=findComment&comment=2566339'>More sharing options...
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