CalArts 99 Posted March 30, 2014 Share #21 Posted March 30, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Having de-badged and re-badged automobiles (a lot), I can attest that this kind of 3M tape is very strong. But it's really important to be sure the surface is super clean first. Any finger oils need to be removed (and not with certain soaps which might leave a residue; I use rubbing alcohol.) Using a piece of monofilament fishing line works well to remove the badge (in this case, the Thumbie) and some of the store bought citrus type adhesive remover takes care of any adhesive residue (here it's called Goo Gone and Goof Off.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Hi CalArts 99, Take a look here Thumbie for the M (with discount for LUF members). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
swamiji Posted March 30, 2014 Share #22 Posted March 30, 2014 If there are any problems I appreciate the opportunity to try and work through things and sort out an difficulties. Because of the type of tape used it should be good for heat (as it is designed to be used with vehicles painted in low bake autoclave's), and also water. So if there is a problem it is usually something else. There honestly haven't been many issues reported with the M9 Thumbie, but the few that have revolve around two main things, people touch the glue surface with fingers before application, people try to re-align it during application which also damages the glue surface (and why the soapy water method is recommended), and then there is contamination on the camera. This can be residue of chemicals not cleaned off in advance, like aftershave, creams, insect repellents, etc. or chemicals or cleaning products being used around the Thumbie. Obviously those sorts of things could damage the rest of the camera as well. Steve Steve We discussed all this, and you sent me extra tape too. I tried all the recommendations you gave, but I never got one to stay. Could be the humidity, I don't know. I just gave up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomreusse Posted March 30, 2014 Share #23 Posted March 30, 2014 I must have missed part of this thread. Who is Steve, and how do I contact him if I want to purchase a Thumble for a black M240? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvN Posted March 30, 2014 Share #24 Posted March 30, 2014 I have used a thumbie on my M8.2 for three years without any problems and with much satisfaction. Got it of the camera without any problems, marks, residue whatsoever. Great to see that now there is also a solution for the M240. My new Leica M, ME or MM will certainly have a thumbie again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share #25 Posted March 30, 2014 I must have missed part of this thread. Who is Steve, and how do I contact him if I want to purchase a Thumble for a black M240? Send a private message to forum member 250swb. (Click on his forum name at the left hand side of post 20 of this thread and a menu will drop down with an option to send a pm.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 30, 2014 Share #26 Posted March 30, 2014 Steve very kindly sent me a new Thumbie to try out as well. The big plus from my point of view, with poor hands, is how much more securely I can hold the camera, particularly with a heavy lens (Noctilux, Vario Sonnar, Vario Elmar etc). It also makes focusing with the left hand easier as well with heavy lenses. It makes access to the roller a little more difficult in that you have to lift your thumb over the brace but in balance, I will definitely be leaving mine on. I did not follow Steve’s instructions on mounting the Thumbie but instead put a tiny smear of alcohol hand cleaning gel on the camera, positioned it on the camera and then left it 30 minutes to evaporate. I have used this before to place something with a self adhesive surface accurately. That method worked perfectly. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetoness Posted March 30, 2014 Share #27 Posted March 30, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) When removing the Thumbie, perhaps when selling the camera, does it leave a mark, or can any left over adhesive be cleaned off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 30, 2014 Share #28 Posted March 30, 2014 When removing the Thumbie, perhaps when selling the camera, does it leave a mark, or can any left over adhesive be cleaned off? No - not even my steel grey painted M9, where it had been on for over a year, before I had to return it to Leica for replacement sensor and took the Thumbie off. No mark at all. Just a twist to get it off, roll off the majority of the bottom adhesive surface and finish with lighter fluid, which I have found even better than white spirit for getting off any residual adhesive. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 30, 2014 Share #29 Posted March 30, 2014 If there are any problems I appreciate the opportunity to try and work through things and sort out an difficulties. Because of the type of tape used it should be good for heat (as it is designed to be used with vehicles painted in low bake autoclave's), and also water. So if there is a problem it is usually something else. There honestly haven't been many issues reported with the M9 Thumbie, but the few that have revolve around two main things, people touch the glue surface with fingers before application, people try to re-align it during application which also damages the glue surface (and why the soapy water method is recommended), and then there is contamination on the camera. This can be residue of chemicals not cleaned off in advance, like aftershave, creams, insect repellents, etc. or chemicals or cleaning products being used around the Thumbie. Obviously those sorts of things could damage the rest of the camera as well. Steve I can assure you, Steve, that if you subject it to 115 F. and 100% humidity in the rain it will just fall off. Mine is still somewhere on the ground in Mahale Forest. . But I grant you, the badges would have dropped off any car as well…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magosak Posted March 31, 2014 Share #30 Posted March 31, 2014 I can assure you, Steve, that if you subject it to 115 F. and 100% humidity in the rain it will just fall off. Mine is still somewhere on the ground in Mahale Forest. . But I grant you, the badges would have dropped off any car as well…. Leica M's operating range is 0-40C (104F), Just rate the Thumbie the same and it should be ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 31, 2014 Share #31 Posted March 31, 2014 I can assure you, Steve, that if you subject it to 115 F. and 100% humidity in the rain it will just fall off. A helpful insight Jaap, indeed the world is full of jeopardy and we all wish that it resembled the safe and comfy idyll of the dental practice where materials and techniques never ever fail and customers never experience pain, discomfort, or the highway robbery of their bank balance by licensed practitioners in the art :D:D Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanHP Posted March 31, 2014 Share #32 Posted March 31, 2014 Ooooooohhhhh this thing is the absolute favorite candidate for the Most-Ugly-Part ever for a M. Never ever on my Leica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 31, 2014 Share #33 Posted March 31, 2014 Ugly is rather subjective... After holding an M in the hand for hours, particularly with the more heavy lenses attached, the thumbie is neither ugly or smart looking, rather is it very convenient. And it allows you to use the hot-shoe. Hand-grips are likely better for the hand, but these add (some) weight and size. Thumbs Up is a popular alternative, but then the hot-shoe is blocked. The M240+EVF combo excludes Thumbs Up for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 31, 2014 Share #34 Posted March 31, 2014 The Thumbie also works well in concert with the handgrip. See my pic here with large Zeiss Vario Sonnar lens attached http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/326166-m240-r-mid-range-zoom-combination.html#post2658298 Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 31, 2014 Share #35 Posted March 31, 2014 Mine did fall off too unfortunately. It was a very useful thing though and a better solution than a Thumbs Up for me, because I frequently use the hot shoe. Given that some buildings are held together with tape these days, I am open to fact it was my installation that screwed things up and I think I remember trying to move it (without the soapy method) just after I put it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted March 31, 2014 Share #36 Posted March 31, 2014 The Thumbie also works well in concert with the handgrip. See my pic here with large Zeiss Vario Sonnar lens attached http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/326166-m240-r-mid-range-zoom-combination.html#post2658298 Wilson This new version seems to be a much improved version. The ones I had were sharper on the edges. This seems more rounded. My M9's are off to new homes, and the M240 is much a different animal. I seem to be using the hot shoe much more than I thought. Your pics seems to make me rethink the Thumbie. I might try again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share #37 Posted March 31, 2014 Ooooooohhhhh this thing is the absolute favorite candidate for the Most-Ugly-Part ever for a M. Never ever on my Leica An interesting viewpoint considering that the Visoflex, goggles, Bellows II, Frankenfinder, and the OROLF lens turret must also be contenders. Actually I don't much mind what it looks like as long as it helps me take pictures, which it does through improved handling of the M. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted March 31, 2014 Share #38 Posted March 31, 2014 I guess it depends on the ratio of time spent taking photos to that spent gawping at the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted April 1, 2014 Share #39 Posted April 1, 2014 I live in the tropics. High temperature (25-38deg c), high humidity (98% RH) & high rainfalls (can be daily thunder showers) are daily affairs in Singapore. Unfortunately, the badges and mouldings on my cars do not fall off and I do not subject my cameras to unfavourable climate conditions. Earlier tumbie on my M9 survived and I am waiting for the new ones for M240 to arrive. I can assure you, Steve, that if you subject it to 115 F. and 100% humidity in the rain it will just fall off. Mine is still somewhere on the ground in Mahale Forest. . But I grant you, the badges would have dropped off any car as well…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted April 1, 2014 Share #40 Posted April 1, 2014 Ooooooohhhhh this thing is the absolute favorite candidate for the Most-Ugly-Part ever for a M. Never ever on my Leica No, that's got to be the Frankenfinder. If only they could have just improved and developed the Zoom Finder further... Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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