mustafasoleiman Posted March 27, 2014 Share #1 Posted March 27, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello everybody I bought two day ago a second body Leica M and the LCD is way to warm compared to the other Leica M I have and to the actual pictures. Does anybody know whether one can tweak it or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Hi mustafasoleiman, Take a look here LCD too warm. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted March 27, 2014 Share #2 Posted March 27, 2014 Ice pack? Does it function properly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 27, 2014 Share #3 Posted March 27, 2014 Did you compare monitor brightness levels in the menu? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 27, 2014 Share #4 Posted March 27, 2014 Irrespective of whether the OP means too warm in temperature (Cº or Fº) or rendition (colour temperature Kº), I suspect there is something wrong and the camera will need to either go back to base or be replaced. It might be worth doing a factory reset and reinstall firmware just to check there is not a line of code corrupted, as this never does any harm and would be diagnostic if the problem persists. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 27, 2014 Share #5 Posted March 27, 2014 ...the LCD is way to warm compared to ... the actual pictures... May happen if you shot raw while vivid color film was chosen as film mode or saturation was set to high in the image menu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted March 27, 2014 I was talking about K (colour). The monitor settings about the two cameras are identical and are all on STANDARD. The actual photographs are correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 27, 2014 Share #7 Posted March 27, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was talking about K (colour).The monitor settings about the two cameras are identical and are all on STANDARD. The actual photographs are correct. I would try a reload of the firmware followed by a factory reset. It would not do any harm. As Leica will possibly suggest this, you can then say you have already tried it. It is like when I have a problem with one of our Macs. I have a routine of standard things I do, like HD repair, clearing caches, repairing file permissions, re-starting in safe mode, starting with a test user etc. Then when the first level tech support is reading through his screen list you can say: “done this; done that, etc, etc.” He then runs out of his list and has to escalate you to the second level techs, who both speak english and know what they are talking about Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted March 27, 2014 I would try a reload of the firmware followed by a factory reset. It would not do any harm. As Leica will possibly suggest this, you can then say you have already tried it. It is like when I have a problem with one of our Macs. I have a routine of standard things I do, like HD repair, clearing caches, repairing file permissions, re-starting in safe mode, starting with a test user etc. Then when the first level tech support is reading through his screen list you can say: “done this; done that, etc, etc.” He then runs out of his list and has to escalate you to the second level techs, who both speak english and know what they are talking about Wilson Done that thank you but to no avail... I went yesterday to R Caplan to let them know two days after I bought the camera that there was an issue, and that unless it could be fixed like you suggested, I would like a replacement as I am not ready to send it to Solms for a month. I am wondering whether I do have the right for a replacement... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 27, 2014 Share #9 Posted March 27, 2014 [...] It might be worth doing a factory reset and reinstall firmware just to check there is not a line of code corrupted I've read that here before and wondered what kind of firmware would work at all with a corrupted section of code. Clue, anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 27, 2014 Share #10 Posted March 27, 2014 I've read that here before and wondered what kind of firmware would work at all with a corrupted section of code. Clue, anyone? I don’t know about cameras but our old IBM type 34 would run with various coding errors in the OS, particularly after an update, that used to only come to light at 5PM on a Friday afternoon, when we had the end of week accounting run going through and IBM was closed for the week-end. For just that reason, we changed our week to week to from Thursday to Thursday, so that on Friday morning we could phone up IBM and say: “which part of properly testing your O/S updates before installing them on end users computers, confused you?” Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted March 27, 2014 Apparently Leica has told the shop that they have changed the LCD manufacturer and that would explain the colour difference with the M bought in September 2013. I would say that, even if that was the case, the LCD should at least reflect the actual colour temperature of the image being taken, not a much warmer version... Anyway tomorrow I am going to Caplan to compare the faulty LCD with another camera from the same batch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted March 27, 2014 Share #12 Posted March 27, 2014 Even if Leica switched LCD manufactures these things are produced following strict standards. Slight variations are normal, but you shouldn't be able to see them just by comparing the two camera monitors. On some cameras, you can actually select the LCD rendering between cool, standard and warm, but not the M unfortunately. Btw, do the menu pages also look warmer or only the playback images? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted March 27, 2014 Even if Leica switched LCD manufactures these things are produced following strict standards. Slight variations are normal, but you shouldn't be able to see them just by comparing the two camera monitors. On some cameras, you can actually select the LCD rendering between cool, standard and warm, but not the M unfortunately. Btw, do the menu pages also look warmer or only the playback images? I agree...Apparently this is from an email that R Caplan has received from Leica! The menu pages look warmer as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted March 27, 2014 Share #14 Posted March 27, 2014 It is obvious then that either the LCD or the firmware is faulty. The menus being warmer too indicates rather a hardware problem IMO. I would be surprised if Leica has switched to a different LCD with a warmer color balance that doesn't correspond to the actual images taken. Please do let us know your findings when you inspect cameras from the same batch. That would be very interesting indeed. PS: my camera is only 1 month old and has a recent s/n. It doesn't show this problem, so I would expect this to be an isolated case of a faulty display. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 27, 2014 Share #15 Posted March 27, 2014 Are you running different firmwares? The AWB changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marac Posted March 28, 2014 Share #16 Posted March 28, 2014 When I picked up my 'repaired' M240 from Leica Mayfair, there was a young man from Korea who had bought a Leica in the UK while he was here, it had a fault, they replaced the camera, the new camera he was given has a yellow/warm tint to the screen. He was told that they could not replace the camera again and it would need to go to WETZLAR (the company has moved) to be repaired. I was told my repair would be about a month but it took them over 3 months. I was, however, given a M240 as a loan camera while mine was repaired. This would suggest that they have a batch of these new LCDs that run warm. Thankfully mine is OK. I think the shop should honour you at least 1 exchange as they did here. If not then its off to Wetlzlar with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted March 28, 2014 Are you running different firmwares? The AWB changed. Same firmware 2.0.0.12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share #18 Posted March 28, 2014 Good news... R Caplan replaced the camera once we checked it against another camera and LCD again was warmer than the other. So all is well under the sky, thanks all for the help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjive Posted March 28, 2014 Share #19 Posted March 28, 2014 How does your new cooler-LCD version compare by serial number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 28, 2014 Share #20 Posted March 28, 2014 Good news... R Caplan replaced the camera once we checked it against another camera and LCD again was warmer than the other. So all is well under the sky, thanks all for the help. The service you have got from Richard Caplan does not surprise me at all. I bought one of the very early 75mm Summarits from them by mail order. It was hopeless and the focus was a country mile out. I had to go to London the next day for a retired partners’ lunch, so I took it in during the morning, while I was still seeing only one of everything. They bent over backwards to be helpful, immediately agreed that the lens was useless and had to be replaced. They then got out three other new ones and let me try them all to see which I thought was best. Even the best of the bunch is still the least good modern Leica lens I have but at least it focuses properly. I have also used them for commission sales. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.