flyalf Posted March 13, 2014 Share #1 Posted March 13, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yeah, this is what we have waited for (no kiddin). Our man Ken Rockwell reviews M: LEICA M typ 240 Review "In spite of all the fun I'll poke at the LEICA M typ 240, the resulting images are so good that it's all worth it. Even if other cameras might work better, no one makes lenses as sharp as LEICA, and if you put LEICA lenses on another camera like the Sony A7, they won't be as sharp. For real-world sharpness, nothing beats a LEICA camera used with LEICA lenses." Overall I tend to agree on most, except the M9 - m comparison og highlight problems of DNG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Hi flyalf, Take a look here Our man Ken tells the true M240 story. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
leica1215 Posted March 13, 2014 Share #2 Posted March 13, 2014 the review looks like X100s is better choice as he stated in first overall section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted March 13, 2014 Share #3 Posted March 13, 2014 the review looks like X100s is better choice as he stated in first overall section. Well, I think he is saying that if you know exactly what a M240 is and how to exploit it's quality, it worth it, even if it's so expensive. If you are an average shooter or you have to balance the price of your stuff with the revenues of the pictures you sell, an M system could be out of balance. The same if you are a sport photographer. This being the case, buy Nikon of Fuji. For most of his readers, an X100 actually is a better choice. I love my M and I think leica lenses are the best ever, nonetheless I can exploit it's quality because I learned how to use a Leica since I was a kid and my father gave me a Leica III just to understand how a real camera works. For newcomers, M system can be frustrating and not suited for many specialized tasks. It's a reportage camera. Some of us try to use it for everything, but this requires skills acquired in years of professional shooting. Try to focus an Elmarit 90 wide open on kid moving around. Some can. Most don't. Leica cameras will be back to mainstream when will be cheaper, have autofocus (a fast one), and will meter perfectly also in the hands of my wife Till then, M will be a system for who knows, understands and dedicate time to learn. And can afford a 20.000 $ system. Franco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 13, 2014 Share #4 Posted March 13, 2014 'For real-world sharpness' I wonder exactly what this means:eek:. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted March 13, 2014 Share #5 Posted March 13, 2014 It means that Leica lenses make the difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonogilmour Posted March 13, 2014 Share #6 Posted March 13, 2014 The guy is a hypocrite. He states several times in other reviews that sharpness doesn't matter, except for pixel peepers, then goes on to rave about the sharpness. Also he shoots JPEG only, which is a terrible way to compare cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted March 13, 2014 Share #7 Posted March 13, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My favourite part: "Unlike a new $9 compact disc, the LEICA's boxes are not sealed. Never buy from a retail dealer; you'll have no idea who's opened it before you. I only buy online; I can't afford to take chances with an item like this." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted March 13, 2014 Share #8 Posted March 13, 2014 That's for a reason. Imagine collectible value of an unopen, and sealed box. ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted March 13, 2014 Share #9 Posted March 13, 2014 C'mon, its Ken. It doesn't mean much whatever he says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted March 13, 2014 Share #10 Posted March 13, 2014 Why did I buy the M 240 when I own an iPhone. Versus iPhone The iPhone 5S shoots faster, has a wider dynamic range and has better colors and auto white balance than the M typ 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirekE Posted March 13, 2014 Share #11 Posted March 13, 2014 Why did I buy the M 240 when I own an iPhone. Versus iPhone The iPhone 5S shoots faster, has a wider dynamic range and has better colors and auto white balance than the M typ 240. Because nobody calls you on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannybuoy Posted March 14, 2014 Share #12 Posted March 14, 2014 He's certainly taken his sarcasm to the next level. I actually enjoyed that review. But then I'm possibly not a real LEICAMAN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted March 14, 2014 Share #13 Posted March 14, 2014 Beyond our Ken... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted March 14, 2014 I actually enjoy Ken. But then again I have so much self-confidence (some would say it even less diplomatic ) that I don't take all he claim for granted nor do I need to feel insulted or loose any sleep of his or other Internet judgements . And I have found a lot of useful information on his site. I believe "real world sharpness" refers to the quantum fuzziness of real world objects due to temporal spatial placement or time-reversal causality by observer puncture of would-be mass or space fluctuations. Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsteps Posted March 14, 2014 Share #15 Posted March 14, 2014 I have owned both the X100 and the X100s and now have an M240 (plus an M6). The files from the M240 are mils better then the Fujis even to my unprofessional eye. Mr Rockwell is amusing but should never be taken as a serious reviewer! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyman Posted March 14, 2014 Share #16 Posted March 14, 2014 Imagine how I feel now, knowing that my iPhone is the superior photographic instrument. If only I'd had the benefit of Ken’s knowledge before I purchased my M and Leica lenses... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted March 14, 2014 Share #17 Posted March 14, 2014 Overall I tend to agree on most, except the M9 - m comparison og highlight problems of DNG. Indeed, a camera with a higher dynamic range will keep shadows/highlights better, unless the exposure is off (which may be the case when using Auto, also depending on the selected exposure mode on the M). Ken is positively pragmatic but has little technical knowledge, and the fact he claims to be shooting JPEG is saying a lot. Comments about dynamic range, colors, and other technical aspects must be taken with a big grain of salt, and oftentimes just as plain BS. He also has another page with a comparison of the M, M9, and other cameras shooting JPEG. He does not realize that doing so he is testing algorithms more than hardware. Nevertheless, that page should be read very carefully by anyone still shooting JPEG on the M9. Anyways, old Ken always manages to keep people talking about him and his site. In that matter, he's a master. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted March 14, 2014 Share #18 Posted March 14, 2014 ...Nevertheless, that page should be read very carefully by anyone still shooting JPEG on the M9.... I will be very careful. Thanks for the heads up. Just kidding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted March 15, 2014 Share #19 Posted March 15, 2014 Imagine how I feel now, knowing that my iPhone is the superior photographic instrument. If only I'd had the benefit of Ken’s knowledge before I purchased my M and Leica lenses... If you want the "truth," ask these gents: ConsumerReports.org No doubt they would say an iPhone makes photographs that are "just as good as" the M240. He's certainly taken his sarcasm to the next level. I actually enjoyed that review. But then I'm possibly not a real LEICAMAN I fail to understand why he rails against the "women's jewelry box" that the M240 comes in. Would he rather Leica ship them in brown plastic grocery bags?? Given the fact that this is Leica's flagship camera and pièce de résistance, the M240 should be shipped in a box that makes a formidable presentation (even if we are paying for the box). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSEG Posted March 15, 2014 Share #20 Posted March 15, 2014 Leica M is an aspirational luxury product and as such, presentation (Packaging) is an integral part of the overall value proposition. Ken just likes to come off like he's too blasé to be affected by anything not directly associated with the image. The truth is, most people save for quite a while in anticipation of this acquisition and to receive their beloved German masterpiece in a canon box would be a letdown to say the least. I do enjoy reading his site, but you literally have to take it all with a huge grain (shaker?) Of salt because he contradicts himself constantly. I also find it incredibly pretentious that Rockwell sprinkles in German words and spellings any time he reviews German gear. It's as annoying as the white bread local anchorman who affects an accent whenever he is required to say anything that can be remotely construed as "Latino". I also found it amusing that he said "no one shoots with a noctilux, it's just for show". Tell that to Thorsten Overgaard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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