AlanJW Posted April 20, 2014 Share #61 Posted April 20, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) The latest LFI is softening us up to it being an APS-C with an extensive justification that APS-C will be smaller and provide almost the same IQ as an M9 and almost the same DoF control as a full frame camera within 1 stop or so. What's for certain is that if it doesn't take M lenses with an impossible to obtain adapter, my interest is zero. I had exactly the same reaction to the LFI article -- that it was sneakily trying to justify APS-C for Leica's marketing purposes. I also have the same reaction re buying (or not buying) one. The technical question is whether an adapter for M lenses is even feasible. Assuming the camera has aperture preferred and/or manual settings, there may be a way to put M lenses on it, and that might actually be interesting. At a multiplier of 1.3 a 135 becomes a 175 for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrozenInTime Posted April 20, 2014 Share #62 Posted April 20, 2014 Are we sure that it has a focal plane shutter ? It looks very thin. Leica now have quite a bit of leaf shutter experience - S system CS lenses and the X line. In-lens leaf shutters would be a very effective way to segregate it from the M system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted April 21, 2014 Share #63 Posted April 21, 2014 The fact that this body is machined out of one single piece of aluminum alloy [...] It is not a uni-body, and we do not know it is plain aluminum. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 21, 2014 Share #64 Posted April 21, 2014 Are we sure that it has a focal plane shutter ? It looks very thin. Leica now have quite a bit of leaf shutter experience - S system CS lenses and the X line. In-lens leaf shutters would be a very effective way to segregate it from the M system. Why would Leica want to do that? Their core business is selling lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted April 21, 2014 Share #65 Posted April 21, 2014 Why would Leica want to do that? Their core business is selling lenses. exactly ... more lenses; new lenses optimized for the new sensor and AF electronics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted April 21, 2014 Share #66 Posted April 21, 2014 leicarumors is now reporting a quiet shutter and showing a picture of a M mount lens with adaptor. Leica T type 701 mirrorless camera: there will be a suprise | Leica News & Rumors Rather than a leaf shutter adaptor - like Pentax offers for PK-Q, Aptina might developed a commercial CMOS sensor with a global shutter - this would be enormous news if Leica has this. The unibody of the camera would be ideal for heat transfer - video capabilities ? No one expects Leica to be leading edge - but maybe ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 21, 2014 Share #67 Posted April 21, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) The photos from one of those links on Leicarumours look to be badly photoshopped superimpositions of a PanaLeica and X-Vario lens onto the unibody. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janki Posted April 21, 2014 Share #68 Posted April 21, 2014 It is not a uni-body, and we do not know it is plain aluminum. . That's right, - we do not really know anything. However, it is known that it rarely is smoke without fire, - the rumors around this Leica T model have long time been quite unambiguous. Pure iron may not be used for any practical purpose, - so it is with pure aluminum, - it is not suitable for very much. This new camera body is probably manufactured of a complex alloy, based on aluminum. Computer controlled manufacturing methods can bring manufacturing output back to the so-called Western world, because labor costs then make up a very small part of the total production cost. Many have probably already seen this video::) Apple - Mac Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted April 21, 2014 Share #69 Posted April 21, 2014 This new camera body is probably manufactured of a complex alloy, based on aluminum. Why a complex alloy? If you are implying a new, exotic alloy then I say it is unlikely because it is not necessary, and besides the aluminum alloys are well known, unless by some wild chance it is of liquid-metal which has some stunning qualities. Among the qualities of liquid-metal is that the product is dimensionally stable and does not require final machining: all that need be done is to cut the spur, gate and runner, probably by water jet. Yet if the so-called prototype we saw is accurate, it is too thick to likely be liquid-metal. Just because it is made by Leica does not mean it has to have some ridiculously expensive alloy, or bling status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 22, 2014 Share #70 Posted April 22, 2014 So there will be three announcements Leaked by Sean Reid who has announced three articles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted April 22, 2014 Share #71 Posted April 22, 2014 Well, a camera body needs one lens or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted April 23, 2014 Share #72 Posted April 23, 2014 yes, and i am not quite sure why leica would create a whole new line given the time it takes to manufacture and fulfill current demand for M and S. Unless someone else makes the lens.I just don't understand why they would bother, but hey they are offering a broader array of product to bring in more consumers who want the red badge at more price points. it's a business, after all, and the world we live in values status quite highly. Might as well push as much stuff out the door as possible while limiting damage to the brand. In the US that's what happened to Brooks Brothers, and before that Abercrombie & Fitch (to be fair they went bankrupts and someone bought their name) -- singular quality turned into a mall brand. When everyone can have it the cache is lost. No matter, it's only a camera and the value is what you produce with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 23, 2014 Share #73 Posted April 23, 2014 Pico metioned quite correctly how liguid metal 3D printing would be too thin for the T. By pure chance I passed the abonimation pictured below - A General Motors car wearing a liquid metal 3D printed thin outer skin. To my knowledge it comes without an adapter for M lenses. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/223143-save-the-date-april-24th-product-announcement/?do=findComment&comment=2573503'>More sharing options...
pico Posted April 23, 2014 Share #74 Posted April 23, 2014 Pico metioned quite correctly how liguid metal 3D printing would be too thin for the M ] I snipped the hilarious pic. FWIW, liquid-metal is a mold-injection process. Sent from my Etcha-sketch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesTele Posted April 23, 2014 Share #75 Posted April 23, 2014 Oops Leica T Website is Made Live by Accident | La Vida Leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted April 23, 2014 Share #76 Posted April 23, 2014 Ok. I'll be the first to say. I don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvolio Posted April 23, 2014 Share #77 Posted April 23, 2014 Not so sure either Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 23, 2014 Share #78 Posted April 23, 2014 As I said, this camera is not aimed at the average forum member. I think there is a sizable audience for it out there, and I also think it might well be a really good camera. In addition I’m sure it will come in for a good bashing from our regular sources…. Not that that matters, as the prospective buyers will not even know that this forum exists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted April 23, 2014 Share #79 Posted April 23, 2014 This to me sounds like the most rational assessment: "Aficionados of the classic rangefinder design are going not to like the Leica T. But Leica addresses also new target groups who love the modern design intuitive operation of Apple gadgets – but are also fascinated by photography and quality without compromise." -Andreas Jürgensen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvolio Posted April 24, 2014 Share #80 Posted April 24, 2014 Be interesting to see how M lenses go via the new adapter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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