sanyasi Posted January 14, 2014 Share #41 Posted January 14, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Monocrhom and Olympus OMD-1E with an adapter for Leica M lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Londonmember Posted January 14, 2014 Share #42 Posted January 14, 2014 Monocrhom and Olympus OMD-1E with an adapter for Leica M lenses Exactly what I have., Plus three OMD lenses. 12/2, 17/1.8, 45/1.8. very small and light. Not up to Leica standards, but very decent all the same. Its good to have a back up camera that does different things (EVF, AF, C-AF with high frame rate, tilting LCD etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 14, 2014 Share #43 Posted January 14, 2014 That is the crux of the discussion, do you want a camera that is just there in case, like a spare wheel or one that adds to your photography, yet can, more or less, take over as well.? Yep. There are back-ups as spares, and then there's the ubiquitous 'horses for courses' (whereby a camera with different capability can also be used as a back-up). I'm referring to the former. In my film M days, I never carried a spare; there wasn't much to go wrong. In the digital world, compounded by Leica QC issues, I don't have the same confidence on a long photo trip. So having a back-up (replacement) M digital body works for me (the M8.2, which I never sold). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tundraline Posted January 14, 2014 Share #44 Posted January 14, 2014 Sony A7R with native Zeiss 35mm and 55mm lenses Sony RX100 when going super-light (e.g., bike rides) Also really interested in the recently-announced Sony a5000 with APS-C sensor (not yet released) as a "super-portable" camera with a nice lens, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carduelis Posted January 14, 2014 Share #45 Posted January 14, 2014 I really believe in having a back up camera, particularly if travelling to far off 'once in a life time' destinations that you may not visit again. Now that I own an M240, I face a difficult decision of wondering whether to take the X Vario or the Ricoh GXR. With Auto Focus and the zoom, the former allows you to take photos quickly when required whereas the 1.5 cropping factor on the latter extends the telephoto range of my M lenses. The obvious solution is to take all three cameras but that seems too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tundraline Posted January 14, 2014 Share #46 Posted January 14, 2014 Sony A7R with native Zeiss 35mm and 55mm lenses Sony RX100 when going super-light (e.g., bike rides) Also really interested in the recently-announced Sony a5000 with APS-C sensor (not yet released) as a "super-portable" camera with a nice lens, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcycles Posted January 14, 2014 Share #47 Posted January 14, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My back up is an M2 and its back up is an NEX5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted January 14, 2014 Share #48 Posted January 14, 2014 M240 for my Monochrom. Monochrom for my M240 (rarely shoot colour). Sony RX100M2 for when they both go tits up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmphoto Posted January 14, 2014 Share #49 Posted January 14, 2014 S2. And vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 14, 2014 Share #50 Posted January 14, 2014 We learned a very painful lesson on a trip to Rajasthan in 2005. My wife’s C-Lux died after 8 days with a jammed autofocus/lens retraction motor, probably due to dust getting past the seals. My Digilux 2’s sensor started to fail at the beginning of the third week, so that the image quality of the last week’s output, left a lot to be desired and got steadily worse (no contrast, no saturation). For long trips, we now take at least two decent cameras and one point and shoot. I often also add a film camera, M4 or Rollei Baby, as they rarely go wrong but 127 film is now very difficult to find for the Rollei (I will be looking in India in two weeks time and if I can find some, bring a whole lot back). However nowadays, I suppose I could almost get away with my iPhone 5 as the final resort. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted January 15, 2014 Share #51 Posted January 15, 2014 However nowadays, I suppose I could almost get away with my iPhone 5 as the final resort. Maybe more than "almost"? From Phaidon yesterday: Steve McCurry's camera phone advice | Photography | Agenda | Phaidon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipan Posted January 15, 2014 Share #52 Posted January 15, 2014 sony a7r with voigtlander and novoflex adapters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted January 15, 2014 Share #53 Posted January 15, 2014 what is your first choice as a back up camera? Lumix GM1. Sometimes it feels like the M is becoming the backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmolinski Posted January 15, 2014 Share #54 Posted January 15, 2014 To be honest, currently I don't have a back up. Have an old Canon 30 and a lumix point and shoot and a M3. But no real back up. Since I sold my beloved M9 to a lucky guy to Corsica I really regret it. This was caused due I would love to own a Monochrom. Have the money but still struggling... Tried the A7r but was really disappointed not a performer with my M Lenses... And the OMD-E 1 I tried today at my local dealer and the ISO performance was disappointing. Although the grain seems to be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBK Posted January 16, 2014 Share #55 Posted January 16, 2014 M3 DS - The original monochrome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 17, 2014 Share #56 Posted January 17, 2014 I like to bring a smaller camera, so it is not only a backup, but also useful when you dont want to bring the M. Even though I own a M9p (still) and a M240 and a MM I usually never bring to M bodies with me. Suggestions for a small backup camera: X2, RX100 or GM1 with kit small and 17/1.8 (the last being the most flexible) If I was a pro and had to rely on the M system I would probably want a second body (M) as a backup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 17, 2014 Share #57 Posted January 17, 2014 I think one of the reasons not to back up an M with another M is that my M’s are rather precious to me. The longer I have one and the more I have used it, the more upset I would be to have that one badly damaged or stolen, particularly my M4, owned from new. My back up cameras, I regard purely as a commodity and will happily take them on beaches, boats, dubious areas etc. If they get stolen or damaged, they are only an insurance claim to being replaced. Insurance costs are now a very significant cost per annum. With say a typical travel outfit of M240, MF grip, EVF-2 , Noctilux, SEM18, Summicron 28 and Vario Elmar 80-200 with me, that is close to £20,000 worth of kit. The cheapest decent world-wide cover I have found is about £600 per annum. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plewislambert Posted January 17, 2014 Share #58 Posted January 17, 2014 Mine is an Olympus EP-5. This is an excellent little camera with AWB that knock’s Leica’s into a cocked hat. .... The only downside is the 12-50 lens. In due course, I will get a better lens for it. Wilson I don't take my Leica outfit on holidays. I use the 12-50mm on a Panasonic G5 as a travel camera and thought it an improvement on the 14-42mm. I know my f2 Summicron is a much sharper lens on the M4/3 outfit but so it should be. Is there a better zoom that the 12-50mm? Thanks for your help. Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted January 17, 2014 Share #59 Posted January 17, 2014 I think one of the reasons not to back up an M with another M is that my M’s are rather precious to me. The longer I have one and the more I have used it, the more upset I would be to have that one badly damaged or stolen, particularly my M4, owned from new. My back up cameras, I regard purely as a commodity and will happily take them on beaches, boats, dubious areas etc. If they get stolen or damaged, they are only an insurance claim to being replaced. Insurance costs are now a very significant cost per annum. With say a typical travel outfit of M240, MF grip, EVF-2 , Noctilux, SEM18, Summicron 28 and Vario Elmar 80-200 with me, that is close to £20,000 worth of kit. The cheapest decent world-wide cover I have found is about £600 per annum. Wilson Wilson, You are insurance specialist so I better ask. Is this a good deal & is it applicable to you with homes in two countries. I reside in UK only, I have John Lewis content insurance with unspecified valuables insured at home and away, from memory, £20K worth of items (camera kit) plus single item over £5K (M9P). My monthly premium is about £30/month, it went up from £24/month following my claim for damaged ZM 25mm. Hoping mentioning of specific businesses not associated with Leica is not braking any rules. Original question; MP backing up M9P backing up M240 (once I buy it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted January 17, 2014 Share #60 Posted January 17, 2014 I do not consider film cameras a backup to a digital, although I do take the M6 with me when I travel. The ideal backup for me, when traveling is a camera that allows me to use my Leica & Zeiss glass, I have both a Pana GX1 and a Fuji XE1, with adapters for M mount lenses (also allows me to use my R 180). On a daily basis I also carry a Canon G16, allows me close up work and tele beyond the 90mm Elmarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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