ThePengu1n Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share #21 Posted January 7, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's the Elmarit-M version. I deleted most of the photos from that day using the lens, if I still have one I'll post it later tonight when I get home. Thank you for all your suggestions and help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Hi ThePengu1n, Take a look here Leica 90mm Elmarit-M f2.8 (Last Version). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Jeff S Posted January 7, 2014 Share #22 Posted January 7, 2014 The Apo-Summicron-M 90 mm 1:2 Asph clearly is the best 90 mm lens ever. The Summarit-M 90 mm 1:2.5 is one step behind, and the Elmarit-M 90 mm 1:2.8 half a step behind the Summarit. FWIW, E. Puts rates the Macro-Elmar-M 90mm 1:4 as "simply the best general purpose 90 mm lens in the current M range" and "among the best performing lenses ever made for 135 format." Interesting that it didn't make your list at all. He considers the APO-Summicron ASPH as "the second best in the class of 90mm lenses for the M system." Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 7, 2014 Share #23 Posted January 7, 2014 What does "best" mean exactly? The Summicron 90/2 apo is sharper at f/4 and has less distortion than the Macro-Elmar 90/4 whilst the Tele-Tessar 85/4 seems to have less distortion and CA than both but the 90/4 macro is always in my bag and i prefer the Summicron 90/2 pre-apo for portrait. Now if one asked me to name a flawless 90 i would think of the latest Elmarit 90/2.8... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted January 7, 2014 Share #24 Posted January 7, 2014 What does "best" mean exactly? The one available to take the photo;). The Elmarit-M is an exceptionally good lens, renders fine detail very well indeed and has just the merest hint of chroma in the corners to confirm that it isn't actually perfect. So at the moment its the 90mm I have available to use and thus the 'best'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 7, 2014 Share #25 Posted January 7, 2014 My brother saw me using the 90 Elmarit-M last year, when he had a great big lump of a lens mounted on the front of his Nikon D800. He would not believe that something that small was a 90mm f2.8. So I then made his life more miserable by showing him my 40mm f2 Summicron-C :) Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted January 7, 2014 Share #26 Posted January 7, 2014 Got an 90mm Elmarit-M last weekend, and used it at a circus show. Difficult to focus in bad light conditions BUT, with the Liveview of the M240 it was not a problem at all! I really like this lens, and 90mm is quite nice in an circus manege. Used it only at 2.8 and with ISO between 1200 and 3200. So some noise reduction was needed. greetz John Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/219659-leica-90mm-elmarit-m-f28-last-version/?do=findComment&comment=2503575'>More sharing options...
satijntje Posted January 7, 2014 Share #27 Posted January 7, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My brother saw me using the 90 Elmarit-M last year, when he had a great big lump of a lens mounted on the front of his Nikon D800. He would not believe that something that small was a 90mm f2.8. So I then made his life more miserable by showing him my 40mm f2 Summicron-C :) Wilson Wilson, I believe that we have several identical lenses. I now have also the 90mm M-Elmarit, own also the 40mm Summicron-C, and will get later this week my 0.95 Nocti :-) Greetz John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 7, 2014 Share #28 Posted January 7, 2014 Wilson, I believe that we have several identical lenses. I now have also the 90mm M-Elmarit, own also the 40mm Summicron-C, and will get later this week my 0.95 Nocti :-) Greetz John John, I also have to own up to just ordering an 18mm SEM. I have given up with the 15mm CV f4.5. It was just about good enough for the M9 but it cannot resolve to the level required for the M240 away from the centre of the frame and constantly having to correct for red edges is an irritation I can do without. I wanted a really good super wide for my three week trip to south India next month, where I am expecting to see lots of lovely panoramas, crying out to be taken with a super wide or stitched. I was going to buy either a new Zeiss Distagon 18 or a second hand SEM18 or Distagon 15. I decided the Distagon 15 is just too bulky. Then while I was speaking to a dealer, asking if they had a S/H SEM, he said: “No but I will do you a very good deal on a new one”. When he told me the price he was prepared to come down to, I snatched his hand off. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePengu1n Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share #29 Posted January 7, 2014 Here is one I took last week. Indoors with no filter and the hood extended. I can't remember if it was wide open but may have stopped down to increase the dof. Looking at the meta data it was midday. As you can see, the window is not in the frame. Given what everyone has said about the Elmarit-M, I would have thought it would handle a situation like this better? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/219659-leica-90mm-elmarit-m-f28-last-version/?do=findComment&comment=2503588'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 7, 2014 Share #30 Posted January 7, 2014 I suspect your lens may need internal cleaning. It may be one where oil/grease has evaporated from the diaphragm/helicoid and condensed on the elements. This can happen if it has been left in tropical sunlight and become very hot. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 7, 2014 Share #31 Posted January 7, 2014 What you have is not normal behavior. Tend to agree with previous poster. Your lens will have to make a journey to Solms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted January 7, 2014 Share #32 Posted January 7, 2014 I agree with the last two comments. This is veiling flare and would suggest light fogging or misting in the lens. I'd certainly not expect mine to behave like this. As a suggestion, try looking through the lens (using it as a 'magnifying glass') and compare what you see with a 'good' lens. I'd expect you to see lowered contrast with the Elmarit-M if their are any problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted January 7, 2014 Share #33 Posted January 7, 2014 And one more... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/219659-leica-90mm-elmarit-m-f28-last-version/?do=findComment&comment=2503610'>More sharing options...
ThePengu1n Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share #34 Posted January 7, 2014 I'm going to send it to Solms as I was planning to get it 6 bit coded anyway. Do you know if this Is this something that they can fix easily if it is fogging or mist on the lens (part of a CLA)? Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 7, 2014 Share #35 Posted January 7, 2014 If it is just dirt, oil film or light fogging then yes. If it is fungus, especially in the lens cement, then that is much more difficult. Around the late 1970’s, Leica changed from using organic Canada Balsam lens cement, with which it is fairly easy to disassemble a lens group with heat and hot water, to a UV activated synthetic balsam. This is a nightmare to separate elements without damaging them, as it does not heat soften and is insoluble. Wison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 7, 2014 Share #36 Posted January 7, 2014 FWIW, E. Puts rates the Macro-Elmar-M 90mm 1:4 as "simply the best general purpose 90 mm lens in the current M range" and "among the best performing lenses ever made for 135 format." Interesting that it didn't make your list at all. He considers the APO-Summicron ASPH as "the second best in the class of 90mm lenses for the M system." Let me guess, this is the lens that you own? Maybe you could meet up with Olaf? Take a tape measure and see which of you is able to piss the furthest or highest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 7, 2014 Share #37 Posted January 7, 2014 If it is just dirt, oil film or light fogging then yes. If it is fungus, especially in the lens cement, then that is much more difficult. Around the late 1970’s, Leica changed from using organic Canada Balsam lens cement, with which it is fairly easy to disassemble a lens group with heat and hot water, to a UV activated synthetic balsam. This is a nightmare to separate elements without damaging them, as it does not heat soften and is insoluble. Wison The Elmarit-M 90 has no cemented elements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 7, 2014 Share #38 Posted January 7, 2014 ...As you can see, the window is not in the frame... Such flare doesn't surprise me if a bright window stood just outside the frame. Was it the case here? If so i would not worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 7, 2014 Share #39 Posted January 7, 2014 The Elmarit-M 90 has no cemented elements. Jaap, I should have looked in my Puts lens bible. I think I was thinking of the 135/2.8 Elmarit-M lens. Malcolm Taylor warned me against getting the later ones, unless I was very sure it was 100% fogging and fungus free, because it is impossible to get the elements apart to clean them. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted January 7, 2014 Share #40 Posted January 7, 2014 Is this something that they can fix easily if it is fogging or mist on the lens (part of a CLA)? The Elmarit-M was only discontinued in 2007 (see the wiki here) so I'd guess that spares are still plentiful. As you've already had a look through the lens its sounds like you might have light misting which may well clean off easily enough. If any elements are damaged beyond cleaning Solms will no doubt have spares though. [FWIW. I'm not sure of all the causes of misting/fogging but I do know that it is possible to get oxidation of some 'mineral' glasses if they get damp (by condensation perhaps) and then remain damp (in areas of high humidity maybe). This IS a problem which can affect glass ports used for underwater photography and I am aware of it because I have both seen it and had it repaired (repolished). In all cases it was as a result of replacing a damp neoprene cover on the port and storing it in this condition. So I wonder if a similar problem might happen with some glass and/or coatings if they are exposed to conditions which allow vapour deposition on the lens surfaces and are not dried out afterwards or are stored in sealed containers? For this reason I am careful to ensure that my lenses are dried out if used in damp or humid conditions, before they are put away.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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