paulsydaus Posted December 16, 2013 Share #21 Posted December 16, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) As an owner of the .95 I'll throw my weight in. Firstly, most people talk about the Nocti's bokeh and light gathering power. However I just thought I'd emphasis how rich and warm the colours are from this lens. It makes my non-APO Summicron seem dull by comparison and that's saying something. The Noctilux gives out the most beautiful colours I've ever seen from a lens. The only downside is the focussing speed. It is slow to focus this thing not only because of the long throw, but also because of the sheer mass of glass that has to be displaced as you focus. Don't expect to be able to focus this thing as quickly as a Summicron. That's about it's only downside for me. Like others have said, I've never found the weight to be an issue... I don't think you'll regret buying this lens. Mine has no focus shift at all. But it does take a while to get the hang of this lens. It's probably not the best place to start in rangefinder photography. Due to the large field curvature, focussing off centre can be problematic... I tend to agree that Leica should allow moving the EVF window around the frame for this reason. Hopefully that will come in a future update... Let us know what you decide! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Hi paulsydaus, Take a look here Which Noctilux?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Paul J Posted December 16, 2013 Share #22 Posted December 16, 2013 Well said, the colour and contrast of the ASPH is really something to behold and something I don't see in the f1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted December 16, 2013 Share #23 Posted December 16, 2013 Hari; Thank you for that terrific post! Happy to share details of my journey with this terrific lens to fellow passengers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted December 16, 2013 Share #24 Posted December 16, 2013 Hi, Thanks for this great explanation and your nice pictures. Now I am not afraid anymore of looking into a f1 anymore (v4). // Tony Johansson Hi Tony, Glad i could share some work on what this lens is capable of in patient and understanding hands Hari Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted December 16, 2013 Share #25 Posted December 16, 2013 Interesting I never thought that there would be difference in color rendition between the asph and previous models. I do agree that if you get the 0.95 you won't regret it. Get the F1 if you want something cheaper or a classic rendering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensu Posted January 13, 2014 Share #26 Posted January 13, 2014 -- Great pictures Hari! I tested this beautiful lens (Noctilux 1.0) last year. Pictures looks like a dream - love it. Not so easy to focus. 2 test-shots at f/1. L1001084 von Gensu auf Flickr L1001077 von Gensu auf Flickr . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted January 13, 2014 Share #27 Posted January 13, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've only ever had the Noctilux version 1 (mine was a 1978 copy). I thought the images it produced were magical, and it seemed razor sharp to me, even wide open. Here is a shot of my friend, I took on my M9-P, wide open. Believe me, when I pixel peep at the tiff file of this, I can clearly read 'Levi Strauss' on the metal buttons of the jacket. I can count the individual stitches in the material. Sadly, I took leave of my senses and traded the lens against an M Monochrom. I convinced myself I could get by with the 50mm Summilux ASPH instead. The 50 Summilux ASPH is a fantastic lens, but I often find myself missing the magical Noctilux. I've read it time and time again, and I can vouch for the truth in this - never sell a Noctilux! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/218145-which-noctilux/?do=findComment&comment=2508259'>More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 13, 2014 Share #28 Posted January 13, 2014 Get an old f1 since there seem to be too many QC problems with the new 0.95. See other threads currently active. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clandrel Posted January 13, 2014 Share #29 Posted January 13, 2014 Get an old f1 since there seem to be too many QC problems with the new 0.95. See other threads currently active. Don't be so negative! There is one lens with aperture ring the wrong way. What the reason is, we don't know. I own the 0.95 and have handled four other. All are perfect! /c Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 14, 2014 Share #30 Posted January 14, 2014 Before you think about upgrading; consider carefully what an 'upgrade' would actually mean to you. Want a lens that's faster and sharper? Consider the Summilux 1.4. Want a lens that's smaller and lighter? Consider the Elmar-M. Want a lens that renders a dreamy bokeh when wide open and screw the weight penalty? Consider the 75 Summilux. The Noctilux is what it is. It has legendary status, but that does not make it the lens we should all aspire an upgrade to. Hell... I don't even have a 50. ;-) Bout time you did then old chap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted January 14, 2014 Share #31 Posted January 14, 2014 Tell me about it. I keep buying the Lotto tickets, but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplorer2 Posted January 14, 2014 Share #32 Posted January 14, 2014 I must confess I have never tried the older Noct and see how the classic rendering that it produces but I simply adore the Noct 0.95 combination with the MM. It produces images that makes me forget abit about how much a hole it left in my bank account. A few samples of the magical 0.95 with MM and like what others have said - you do not have to shoot it wide open all the time. But when the stars are all in alignment and you have the perfect model to work with the 0.95 does comes in very nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 14, 2014 Share #33 Posted January 14, 2014 Good job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saad Posted January 14, 2014 Share #34 Posted January 14, 2014 Thank you the first one is amazing, and the others are beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny V Posted May 2, 2014 Share #35 Posted May 2, 2014 I'm not a Pro in any way, shape or form. I'm just an enthusiast. I'm not technical, and I've never taken a course. I used to have a dark room, and I only made the transition to digital when the Nikon D3 came out. All I can say is that I'm off the "Sharp" bus. FOR ME, I get more xcited about character. I spent a year thinking about whether or not to get a Leica. When I took the plunge, I bought an M9-P instead of the 240. Why? I personally think (pre-processing) that it has more character. When it came to picking a lens. I went with a 50mm Summilux pre-asph. Why? Simply because I thought the current 50mm was too sharp. (My research was only internet looking - but before you jump all over me by telling me "you can't tell over the internet," I remind you, I'm not technical, but I believe I looked at enough pics that I felt comfortable with my decision). Anyway, to make a long story short, I recently traded in my 50mm Summilux Pre-Asph and I got the Noctilux F/1. After shooting with it only 1x, I was totally hooked! It's simply sublime. It's dreamy and sharp, but to my eyes, it has more character than the .95 - which to me, is just too sharp, and "too perfect." With the 50mm Summilux Asph and the .95 Nocti, it feels just too much like I'm watching digital cable TV, as opposed to film. (Not that the F/1 combined with an M9 looks like film - it's just a bit closer to it, and a bit more natural looking. The .95 is just too sharp for my taste, and its bokeh is less "dreamy" than that of the F1. The F1 Noctilux is now my main lens, and it almost never comes off the camera. (I also have a 28mm 2.0 Summicron). If you shoot with a leica, convenience is probably not your main concern. That's why it's also probably not your only camera. The extra weight of the nocti over the summi never matered, and the partial blocking of the lens didn't matter either as you get used to it. It's just simply a fantastic lens, and it's one of the only lenses that goes down to F/1 - which is how I shoot it most of the time - and that's the only reason you'd need to own it anyway - to be able to shoot at F/1. The fact that a used F/1 is $3-$4K less than a .95 was irrelevant to me in this case. If they were the same price, I still would have bought the F/1. By the way, if I want super-sharp, I use my Nikon D800E, which I find to be sharper than the Leica - but I also find it has less depth and less character. The funniest part of the story is that I'm more excited about shooting film again. I'm more excited about the M3 my Dad left me when he passed away in '99. I just shot 4 roles of film on it with a '50's f1.5 summarit and the pics were awesome!!! So imperfect, but with a feel and depth that got me so xcited!!! My next step is to pull out the Rollei!!! : ) PS: I can't wait to put the Nocti on the M3!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted May 2, 2014 Share #36 Posted May 2, 2014 Great post! Your M3 will love your Noctilux. Trust me :-). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 2, 2014 Share #37 Posted May 2, 2014 Loved the post accept for the "if you want super-sharp", etc.. How can you say that? Perhaps you are not getting the most out of your M9. Even with half the MP of the 800, I dare say with old M9 images I could still see excellent focus with 20x30" prints which is much more demanding than internet jpegs and shows the "real" image. Try printing your images and then decide if it's the camera/lens combo or you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny V Posted May 4, 2014 Share #38 Posted May 4, 2014 Yes Algrove, you are right. I probably just mis-chose my words. Yes, the F1 Nocti is incredibly sharp, but not as "plastic-ly" sharp as my D800E. (Again, I'm sure you can get around some of this in Photoshp/LR. I'm talkin straight out of the camera). PS: I can tell you this for sure. My M3 pics with the summarit f1.5 using 400 Hp5 (pushed to 800) were def not as sharp, and it was pretty grainy - but the pix were Gorgeous!!! My message is simply, I'll take character over sharpness any day, and I'm tired of chasing "sharpness." (It took me 10 years to fig this out). That's why I went Nocti f1 and that's why I just bought a rollei f2.8 - although yes, I know, it's also damn sharp - but not at the xpense of character. PS: I haven't printed a photo from the M9-P yet, but I'm looking forward to it. PSS: Thx for the support guys! It was my first post!!! And I was quite nervous cause I'm a ZERO on the technical side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony740607 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share #39 Posted May 10, 2014 Thanks for your great answer! I like answers like this when they are very much based on feelings. I am actually now looking into getting a Noctilux f/1 after looking around at pictures and opinions of people. I know someone selling his Nocti f/1 (version 2 E58 from 1977). Even if it is more expensive than the 50mm Summilux ASPH I think I will go for it. Thanks once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted May 10, 2014 Share #40 Posted May 10, 2014 One thing that is particularly characteristic of the f/1 model to me is this swirl in off-center, towards the upper-left corner of a landscape frame. It’s probably in the other corners as well, but I always end up seeing it there. It’s hard to describe, but that’s the attribute I always associate with that lens (in a good way ). -jbl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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