Overgaard Posted October 19, 2013 Share #1 Posted October 19, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have just finished the next article in the Leica M240 series, this one dealing with Leica R lenses (and everything else) attached to the Leica M240 Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Page 33 - "Leica R lenses on the Leica M 240" - Sample Photos - Electronic Viewfinder - Leica R lens catwalk - handgrips - adapters Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Hi Overgaard, Take a look here New article: The Leica R lenses guide to Leica M240 on overgaard.dk. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
sisoje Posted October 20, 2013 Share #2 Posted October 20, 2013 Nice read! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted October 20, 2013 Share #3 Posted October 20, 2013 Great read! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 20, 2013 Share #4 Posted October 20, 2013 A very interesting piece, Thorsten, (and a shame not to be able to meet you again at this year's Leica One Challenge in Wetzlar; I think you would have enjoyed it). Your skill with and love of the 50/0.95 Noctilux asph is clear for all to see but I'm a little confused to see it featuring so often in an article that's primarily about Leica R lenses? The pictures were very enjoyable anyway. Lovely shots from the 35-70/2.8 Vario-Elmarit asph, which show why it's such a legendary lens. It's a shame that no pictures from the equally legendary 280/4 APO-Telyt-R are included. Next time you pass through London you're welcome to try mine. For info: the weblink to Meister Camera Berlin appears to be broken. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted October 20, 2013 Share #5 Posted October 20, 2013 Yes, I do find it strange that an article about Leica-R lenses on the M has mostly Noctilux images, so far as I have read. There's also a glaring error - the die-casting claiming to be the body of the M Typ 240 is actually that of the M8/M8.2/M9/M9-P/MM/M-E. It is emphatically NOT that of the M Typ 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted October 20, 2013 Share #6 Posted October 20, 2013 A nice article........ ..... refreshing to have a sensible photographer who acknowledges the M as a quality camera with great flexibility .... and just gets on with taking great photos instead of carping on about it's deficiencies .... like some on this forum do .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 20, 2013 Share #7 Posted October 20, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Enjoyed the R article as I own a few myself. Hope to see you again in Miami when Winter weather forces you South. Just hope your next Miami workshop does not conflict with the Palm Beach Photo Centre Foto Fusion event around mid January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclemmons Posted October 20, 2013 Share #8 Posted October 20, 2013 The traditional M system lenses have been constrained in length by the rangefinder to 135. With the new electronic viewfinder and live view system, does anybody foresee a new longer M lens? Say a 180-200 or longer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted October 20, 2013 Thanks, I have just included an "Epilogue" to the article about the reason so many of the photos are the Noctilux is the same that so many of the M9 pages was Summicron photos: That is the lenses I choose to use the most. Despite all the R lenses I have. Read more in the article, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted October 20, 2013 Enjoyed the R article as I own a few myself. Hope to see you again in Miami when Winter weather forces you South. Just hope your next Miami workshop does not conflict with the Palm Beach Photo Centre Foto Fusion event around mid January. Miami will be in the beginning of March. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted October 20, 2013 The traditional M system lenses have been constrained in length by the rangefinder to 135. With the new electronic viewfinder and live view system, does anybody foresee a new longer M lens? Say a 180-200 or longer? With the success of new excellent and very expensive lenses, I think Leica Camera AG should (and would) play with ideas to lenses that the EVF-2 makes possible. Such as 90mm f/1.4 or even f/1.0, as well as longer tele lenses. Leica did a great 180/3.4 lens once and could probably do it even better today, and in M bayonet. So let's cross fingers :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4X5B&W Posted October 20, 2013 Share #12 Posted October 20, 2013 Very informative review Thorsten. For people that have used these lenses with film we understand exactly where your coming from......so many really nice options from the R line-up, to complement the current M series lenses. For me the 180 3.4 Apo Telyt for a longer lens, the 100 2.8 Apo Macro for close focus work, and of course, as you mentioned the wonderful "Noctilux look" 80 1.4 Summilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted October 20, 2013 Share #13 Posted October 20, 2013 Hello Thorsten As always your work and snaps and information us helpful. Any comments on new firmware I know you shoot mostly with grey card as u have learned this from you and also adopted ev card in it my workflow Thanks Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted October 21, 2013 Share #14 Posted October 21, 2013 Thorsten, some of the comments above do raise a meaningful issue. Although R lenses are discussed in your informative piece, Noctilux images prevail. Your shooting style seems to be more intimate and the bias toward 50mm focal length renders R lenses somewhat superfluous. Maybe the longer R APOs are best left converted to Nikon F or used on Canons. They do seem ungainly and large on a dainty M body and the EVF-2 is by now old tech and not as well suited for manual focusing as one would like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted October 21, 2013 Share #15 Posted October 21, 2013 It will be interesting to see where Leica take their lens developments, leaving aside updating existing lenses. The problem for them is that a lens which can only be used on an M Typ 240 is going to have a more restricted market than a lens which can be used on all cameras. A 90mm Summilux or Noctilux would be huge and hugely expensive but would certainly break new ground. If we are beginning to accept the restricted aperture of the XV lens, a compact 28-90 zoom with click stops for OVF frame focal lengths would certainly appeal to me and would work on old and new bodies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted October 21, 2013 Hello ThorstenAs always your work and snaps and information us helpful. Any comments on new firmware I know you shoot mostly with grey card as u have learned this from you and also adopted ev card in it my workflow Thanks Ron I really don't have much comment to the new firmware yet. I still have lockups and that is the main thing I noticed. On the colors, it worked for me before, so I haven't experienced a big difference. I thought about shooting some scenes and color cards before and after the update, but then thought it was pointless to compare two setups when you can't choose between them. I am a great believer in making the best out of what you got, so talking about what was or what could be is not that relevant. What is relevant is how to get what you have now, to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted October 21, 2013 Share #17 Posted October 21, 2013 Hello Thorsten, great article and with very promising r-lenses photos. Very interesting the historical notes you reported. Thank You. Sara Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted October 21, 2013 Share #18 Posted October 21, 2013 I really don't have much comment to the new firmware yet. I still have lockups and that is the main thing I noticed. On the colors, it worked for me before, so I haven't experienced a big difference.I thought about shooting some scenes and color cards before and after the update, but then thought it was pointless to compare two setups when you can't choose between them. I am a great believer in making the best out of what you got, so talking about what was or what could be is not that relevant. What is relevant is how to get what you have now, to work. I'm not sure what you mean here, as I presume that you still have an M9. When I look at your color shots from the M240, the color rendition does not look as good as your M9 pictures — although this is judging according to my taste, some others people have said the same thing in some threads that I've seen. —Mitch/Paris Tristes Tropiques [WIP] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share #19 Posted October 21, 2013 I'm not sure what you mean here, as I presume that you still have an M9. When I look at your color shots from the M240, the color rendition does not look as good as your M9 pictures — although this is judging according to my taste, some others people have said the same thing in some threads that I've seen. —Mitch/Paris Tristes Tropiques [WIP] I haven't seen any such comments. As I said, "I am a great believer in making the best out of what you got." Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/215008-new-article-the-leica-r-lenses-guide-to-leica-m240-on-overgaarddk/?do=findComment&comment=2447231'>More sharing options...
Guest Gilgamesh Posted October 21, 2013 Share #20 Posted October 21, 2013 The 50mm f0.9 is out of focus in just about every single image. I do not know the author's age, but an eye sight test should hove-to shortly, followed by spec's, thus sparing us any more of these out of focus 0.?? images. However, the 50mm f2.0 is spot-on. Thus re enforcing the idea that the 50mm f1 and faster lenses are for gifted, wealthily amateurs; and at their best, shot at f4+ perform well, thus rendering the fast speed and huge size completely redundant, something the author argues in his own summary. Said author has the R series lenses, but makes no use of them... partly because the M series body benefits from small, desecrate, prime, fast, small (again) and dare I say, dedicated M lenses. This does NOT include the 50mm f0.?? lenses. The author concludes incorrectly, assuming the position that new is best. The best photographers have a LOOK. What you are saying in this article is the R lenses give one a strong, individual LOOK. But the conclusion is that you don't want an individual LOOK, you want a look like everyone else's because the new kit ticks your boxes. I would suggest to you that your images are both out of focus and maybe lacking in any cohesive, LOOK maybe? Thus your conclusion is unsound and worse, wholly self defeating. If you want a special, individual LOOK, then look no further than the R lenses (and the M body) in favour of the rat race, a race to own the newest, shinny kit (how I loathe the 50mm f0.?? lenses!) and shoot for you, create your LOOK, your style. Push back against this rat race nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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