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Firmware 1.102

leffe

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cam2000

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Hello All,

I want to confirm that I downloaded 1.102, put it onto an SD car (which I had previously formatted in the M8) and then loaded 1.102 onto the M8. The download took about 2 minutes and I got the message that the download was successful.

Turned the M8 on and took a quick test picture. When I wanted to review the picture, I got a screen with black and white hnorizontal stripes. Turned the M8 off and then on again and now it works OK. At least that is the case with the 15 or so test pictures I shot out of the window.

 

Thanks again for the quick help.

Teddy

 

Hi Teddy

 

I got the same thing..... with the horizontal stripes on the first shot...... the next ones were ok! I still love my M8 :)

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wlaidlaw

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Wilson I think you have a extra zero in your serial number, should be 3100302.

I got mine at the end of January also, 25th to be exact, and yes I think mine was one that never sold before the recall. Whether it was already at a dealer or still in the Leica distribution channel is anyone's guess.

Is yours chrome? Mine is.

With the 302 serial that is a early one, if the serial numbers mean anything.

But in any event the newer ones are showing serial numbers in the 6-7-8 thousand range. I wouldn't think any company would make big jumps in serial numbers and then go back to earlier numbers.

 

Steve,

 

For my own peace of mind I emailed Leica today and got a very rapid and reassuring, if somewhat ambiguous message:

 

"M8 Sensor Revision 3100302

Dear Mr. Laidlaw,

Your M8 has not to be send back to Leica Germany.

It left our house after running the upgrade.

Kind regards

M8 Support

Ursula Brand-Gerheim "

 

Does that mean the camera was made with the upgraded sensor or was it remade with an upgraded sensor? Does it matter?

 

Wilson

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jaapv

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If I translate it back into German ;) it means it is a first batch camera with an upgraded sensor, which should not make one hoot of difference. Well maybe it will be more collectible in twenty years time... It may also be preferable because it went through QC twice.

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ho_co

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And hold on to Ursula's note to confirm its special status!

 

You might even ask her to sign a copy and fax it to you, so you alone will have a certified up-to-date M8.

 

Maybe ask for her picture as well?

 

Nice that they sent the status confirmation!

 

--HC

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ho_co

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The specific (odd since 1.091) behavior of my M8 is the following:

1. Turn on -- no response. I waited 20 seconds, for example.

2. Touch the shutter release; the red llight at the lower right of the review screen blinks.

3. About 1.5 seconds later the battery indicator and remaining image count appear.

Bill--there was a post yesterday confirming that you have a defective on/off switch and apparently the camera must go back to Solms.

 

See http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/21589-strange-m8-turn-sequence.html#post227749. :(

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Bob Ross

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Hello All,

I want to confirm that I downloaded 1.102, put it onto an SD car (which I had previously formatted in the M8) and then loaded 1.102 onto the M8. The download took about 2 minutes and I got the message that the download was successful.

Turned the M8 on and took a quick test picture. When I wanted to review the picture, I got a screen with black and white hnorizontal stripes. Turned the M8 off and then on again and now it works OK. At least that is the case with the 15 or so test pictures I shot out of the window.

 

Thanks again for the quick help.

Teddy

Teddy,

I got that response with vr 1.092 while shooting a series of JPEGs. I took it to mean that the camera was too busy processing the last image to give me an LCD thumbnail. The image was there on review and the "special effect" hasn't reaccured. I'll watch for it when I upgrade. It may be that when you turn the camera on after upgrading, the camera is busy tidying up the card and checking itself, so taking a picture right away may produce a busy signal in the thumbnail circuits.

Bob

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wparsonsgisnet

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Bill--there was a post yesterday confirming that you have a defective on/off switch and apparently the camera must go back to Solms.

 

See http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/21589-strange-m8-turn-sequence.html#post227749. :(

 

Howard, I saw that posting and have to admit to little enthusiasm.

To paraphrase: they'll have to pry it dead out of my hands.

 

That is, it ain't broke, yet and I need it. At the moment it's quirky, hasn't gone SDS, and takes great pix.

 

Thanks for the heads up.

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hankg

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I updated my firmware, slapped on a coded 21/2.8 with B+W IR/cut filter and after 30 shots remembered that the new firmware had an additional choice for lens recognition on with IR filter! See Leica... we are perfectly capable of screwing things up without manually selectable menu profiles!

 

This however got me thinking. Perhaps the best of all solutions would be a Leica software smart transfer utility, the sole purpose of which would be to transfer files from card to disc. My PC and Mac both occasionally refuse to recognize my M8 SD's anyway. I assume all the corrections are just non-destructive instructions attached to the RAW files by the firmware. The ingester could contain all the profiles and would allow you to swap profiles, change names, alter EXIF, add copyright and other meta info. The user could choose to have the computer instead of the camera take care of lens corrections. Leica could leave the menu in camera as is preserving their original vision for the camera's user interface. It may be that swaping profiles may require attaching the camera to your PC rather then a card reader but if you needed the functionality it would be worth it. The output of the transfer would be RAW DNG files ready to process in C1, etc.,

 

It's a solution that provides the best of both worlds. A simple in camera menu, plus the flexibility to correct errors in menu selection or accomodate non-coded lenses in post. A computer software interface can contain a lot more choice then a camera interface. You are also using the interface at a time when it's not competing with your subject for your attention. Down the road Leica would have the option to provide a developers pack at a price to third party vendors to develop plug-ins (additional lens profiles, incorporation into apps like iView, Extensis Portfolio) of their own to the transfer utility.

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In addition to the scroll wheel occasionally casuing the menu to act like a slot machine display and the occasional blck & white stripped image that is later ok, I have foune two other intermitent behaviors. 1.) Image exposure will be way off like 1/24th in first shot and 1/180th in next shot of same subject, same lighting taken seconds apart and 2.) strange orange (very warm) color balance in one shot and normal color balance in next, again of same image, same settings, same lighting taken seconds apart.

 

Anyone else experiencing these problems? Guy are you colecting these for Leica? I note that others have experienced the first two I reported. At this point we have at least four intermitent defects in the new software. While they are not show stoppers, they should be fixed. White balance in auto appears to me to be much improved; however, specific white balance settings appear about the same.

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There seem to be 2 threads going about this firmware upgrade. I posted on the other that of the roughly 100 shots I took today 3 or 4 had the white and black stripe problem on the instant review (on one of the shots the stripes were red and black). As others have mentioned, the image seems to be recorded ok, just the instant review is currupted.

 

I also had a strange behaviour when reviewing and moving from file to file. Its as though the camera is hopping over the expected image, showing the next image and then returning to the correct image as the info loads in. I don't recall seeing this before (I upgraded from 1.90 directly to 1.102). I think I would have noticed this.

 

Lastly, the auto exposure seemed to be producing much darker files (the histogram shifted to the left) but I need to look carefully at the files later.

 

Finally, and slightly off topic but mentioned above, it has been noted in several reliable places (eg: http://db.tidbits.com/article/8436) that Mac users using Safari should turn off its Auto-decompress of downloaded files as it leaves your computer vulnerable to attacks on your computer using Unix scripts.

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There seem to be 2 threads going about this firmware upgrade. I posted on the other that of the roughly 100 shots I took today 3 or 4 had the white and black stripe problem on the instant review (on one of the shots the stripes were red and black). As others have mentioned, the image seems to be recorded ok, just the instant review is currupted.

 

This one I have reported already

 

I also had a strange behaviour when reviewing and moving from file to file. Its as though the camera is hopping over the expected imag

 

this one also.

 

these are the only things I have found so far except for the initial fast scroll after i uploaded the firmware

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I am happy to see that skin tone are much better, to my eyes, anyway

 

second I am VERY happy to see that for this upgrade there are a lost less posts, and most of them are positive. I think it is a serious sign that Leica is working in the right direction. Maybe there is no need for an M9 then LOL don't tell the people who are waiting for it, they'll wait for ever LOL

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In addition to the scroll wheel occasionally casuing the menu to act like a slot machine display and the occasional blck & white stripped image that is later ok, I have foune two other intermitent behaviors. 1.) Image exposure will be way off like 1/24th in first shot and 1/180th in next shot of same subject, same lighting taken seconds apart and 2.) strange orange (very warm) color balance in one shot and normal color balance in next, again of same image, same settings, same lighting taken seconds apart.

 

Anyone else experiencing these problems? Guy are you colecting these for Leica? I note that others have experienced the first two I reported. At this point we have at least four intermitent defects in the new software. While they are not show stoppers, they should be fixed. White balance in auto appears to me to be much improved; however, specific white balance settings appear about the same.

 

 

Exactly my experience too, with the slot machine display and the strange orange colorbalance for one shot. No "Image exposure way off" though. Must say too that White balance appears too be much improved.

 

So far: some consistent "biggies" apparantly, nothing that could not be fixed I hope.

 

And the M8 still a joy to work with!

 

 

Pictures with Leica and Canon

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jlm

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coded my 15mm Heliar with 39mm B+W 486 as the WATE; selected 16mm in the drop down mene, then ON+IR filter for lens selection. it works! (firmware 1.102, obviously)

 

when the replay image first comes up, it has the cyan corners, then in a second or two, the correction kicks in and the display changes w/o cyan.

 

same thing on re-playing an image at a later time: it first comes up w/o correction, then after a second or two, the correction shows up.

 

a question for the WATE drill:

 

select Menu, lens correction ON+IR filter, then you get a drop-down to select the focal length.

 

select Menu, lens correction ON, no drop down menu shows up

 

Does the lens correction ON not need to know focal length for the WATE, or is there some other way to get the dropdown FL choice menu?

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John with the coding on only it is just correcting for vignetting , so the real question is the WATE how does it know what focal length you picked, since the default is 18mm when you select the On/IR filter we could assume the same 18mm focal length. but you ask a great question and for the WATE we will need the drop down with just the coding on.

 

Guess we will have to send this question to leica and see if they can fix the firmware for this

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