jip Posted September 7, 2013 Share #1 Â Posted September 7, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) It seams that the TIFF files the DMR produces are bigger in MB file size then the RAW files, which let's me think, more data = better data... This is probably not true, since RAW isn't named RAW for a reason. Â Â Can someone clarify what file gives me the highest quality? Â Thanks in advance, been enjoying the camera allot today, and quit my subscription to the local Fitness centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Hi jip, Take a look here DMR RAW or TIFF?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dave_d Posted September 7, 2013 Share #2 Â Posted September 7, 2013 RAW gives you options for processing and allows a non-destructive work flow. TIFF is the processed image and you loose the option to reprocess the file again in the future. Both will give you great quality but I prefer RAW for the non-destructive work flow. When I switched from using Lightroom 3 to Lightroom 4 I was able to reprocess all my RAW files and take advantage of the new Adobe RAW converter and improved noise reduction. The improvement in software was like getting a new camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 7, 2013 Share #3 Â Posted September 7, 2013 Basically a raw file is a TIFF file contained in a DNG wrapper using lossless TIFF compression. If you run Rescue Pro it will show your DNGs as TIF, and you have to rename them to DNG to open. All files you convert into your postprocessing program are TIFF files converted out of raw by your raw converter (make sure to set ACR to 16-bit TIFF, ADOBE RGB or PROPHOTO) and as such much larger than the original DNG. So it does not make any difference that you use the more compact DNG format to record the images on your SD card. Â Interesting side-note: The DMR was the first camera to use the DNG format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted September 7, 2013 Share #4  Posted September 7, 2013 If you work in tiff (as I do with scans), 'save as' each major modification with a suffix to the filename so that you can retrace your steps if you change your mind Hard disk space is cheap  Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted September 7, 2013 Share #5 Â Posted September 7, 2013 Basically a raw file is a TIFF file contained in a DNG wrapper using lossless TIFF compression. If you run Rescue Pro it will show your DNGs as TIF, and you have to rename them to DNG to open. All files you convert into your postprocessing program are TIFF files converted out of raw by your raw converter (make sure to set ACR to 16-bit TIFF, ADOBE RGB or PROPHOTO) and as such much larger than the original DNG. So it does not make any difference that you use the more compact DNG format to record the images on your SD card. Â Interesting side-note: The DMR was the first camera to use the DNG format. Â JIP, our esteemed colleague has this correct. As far as best practices: Always shoot RAW. Then make a cope of all ther RAW files & store them away. One day you will want to back & use that copy to reprocess that DNG. Â As Jaap noted, the TIFF file produced from the DNG/RAW file will be the largest integral file that can be natively produced within the ADOBE system. That doesn't mean that you can't make a larger file, but it won't be "better". Â NOTE: ALWAYS have a copy of the original RAW/DNG files set aside and be relentless about keeping them in a safe place. Good Luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted September 8, 2013 Share #6 Â Posted September 8, 2013 Another vote for RAW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 8, 2013 Author Share #7 Â Posted September 8, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for all the advice, I didn't exactly know about DNG actually being a package containing a TIFF file and being compressed, I've been shooting raw (DNG) because thats what I was used to on the other Leica's I use... so I'm all good! Â Shot some new shots today, DMR keeps impressing me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted September 9, 2013 Share #8 Â Posted September 9, 2013 The DNG format also gives you the option to try new raw processors on your old files. For example, when Capture One went to version seven, there was a drastic improvement in the fine detail of the already excellent DMR files. I think in the RAW format the camera shoots (DNG for Leica) , the de-bayer algorithm is applied in the conversion from RAW by the image program, not the camera. As the RAW image processing programs get better with this conversion, even older RAW files will look better when reprocessed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted October 25, 2013 Share #9 Â Posted October 25, 2013 Good info... I'm only shooting in DNG only now as a conciquence. Still new to Photoshop but I'm having fun. Â Funny thing is my DMR R8 combo has cured my GAS (for now) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 25, 2013 Share #10  Posted October 25, 2013 ctr-yellowbird  Keep using it. Only in that way will the GAS build up start all over again for something new.  Never had car GAS after getting my yellowbird for over 25 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted October 25, 2013 Share #11 Â Posted October 25, 2013 Funny thing is my DMR R8 combo has cured my GAS (for now) Â It may start up again once you use an APO lens with the DMR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted October 26, 2013 Share #12  Posted October 26, 2013 ctr-yellowbird Keep using it. Only in that way will the GAS build up start all over again for something new.  Never had car GAS after getting my yellowbird for over 25 years.  Yellowbird? :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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