erl Posted July 26, 2013 Share #21 Posted July 26, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Jip, my take on your three pics is that the first two are slightly magenta. I notice sometimes that pics with a lot of green when 'balanced', display that magenta (complimentary) colour. Try shifting towards green and you may improve the look. Depends on your taste as well of course. The third one looks sligtly yellow to me. Try a minute shift to blue and see if you prefer it. Your Portra look in general is typical of the film, which is excellent. Scanning colour neg, as you are no doubt aware, is a bit like 'holding your mouth the right way'. Sometimes I come back to it another day and it gets better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 Hi erl, Take a look here Kodak Portra 400 scanned with Nikon LS4000ED. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Phil U Posted July 26, 2013 Share #22 Posted July 26, 2013 Yes! I know.I am simply showing support for that in light of the fact that Doc Henry is encouraging NikonScan instead, which of course he is free to do. You responded to a post that told Jip to 'check out vuescan because it worked with his Nikon scanner'. I was just pointing out that he was already using it and my point was aimed at the preceding poster anyway. But never mind, I use Vuescan too, so +1 to your support for it. Jip - I'd say it's better to solve the problem by learning well the tool you have, before blaming the tool and moving to a new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 26, 2013 Share #23 Posted July 26, 2013 Yes! I know.I am simply showing support for that in light of the fact that Doc Henry is encouraging NikonScan instead, which of course he is free to do. Hi Erl, As I think the picture of Jip in Portra 400 does not correspond with what I have, I asked him to try the Nikon software. But he told me after that he can not use it with his Mac. I have a calibrated Eizo screen Regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 26, 2013 Share #24 Posted July 26, 2013 I used NikonScan for many years and found that it was easier to use out of the box and that it therefore gave more consistent results without too much (or even any) tweaking. Many complain about stability issues on 10.6 but I got mine working very well (there are very useful Apple Discussions threads on this topic). Vuescan requires a bit of setting up to get the various film profiles as one wants them, but once that's done it is very good and gives equally consistent results. I just wish Hamrick would revamp the interface. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 26, 2013 Share #25 Posted July 26, 2013 That's interesting Philipus. I actually prefer the VueScan interface to the Nikon one. I agree about the film profiles. I actually use anything except the recommended ones and get better results. I still confuse myself with them sometimes but always return to basics to get it right. I do like the ability to nearly fill the screen with the scan. Last time I used NikonScan I could not do that, but maybe I am out of date on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted July 26, 2013 Share #26 Posted July 26, 2013 I've given up trying to scan colour negative. Life's too short. Portra 400: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted July 29, 2013 Share #27 Posted July 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've given up trying to scan colour negative. Life's too short.Portra 400: In fact because of the tedious scanning, I finally decided to buy my first digital camera ( Nikon D 700+ Leica M8 ) But way to go Jip that you have the patience and the will to do it!! I'm glad there is a young generation that is experimenting and getting result with those wonderful films and cameras. I still have some fresh portra in the freezer. If I don't use it anymore, I'll take it to the next meeting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 29, 2013 Share #28 Posted July 29, 2013 I have added some more pictures of balloons with Kodak Portra 400 here (posts n° 289,290,291,296,297 and 300) http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-15.html Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 29, 2013 Share #29 Posted July 29, 2013 I've given up trying to scan colour negative. Life's too short. Pete, I'm not sure I understand - do you mean that you've stopped scanning colour negs because the colours are difficult to get right due to the orange mask, or something else? I thought you were still shooting and scanning colour negs (and using ColorPerfect). I find Portra 400 also scans well enough to be used pushed. The one below is was shot with my M4 and the 50 Summilux Asph at 1600. One can of course get almost any result in post. The only other colour negative film I use these days is Gold 200 which I find also gives nice colours. Cheers Philip Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/209491-kodak-portra-400-scanned-with-nikon-ls4000ed/?do=findComment&comment=2385520'>More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 29, 2013 Share #30 Posted July 29, 2013 I have added some more pictures of balloons with Kodak Portra 400 here (posts n° 289,290,291,296,297 and 300)http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-15.html Best Henry Wonderful photos, Henry. I almost agree with what you wrote in post #300 in that thread. I'd say that "film pictures are always more beautiful". But that's just me of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted July 29, 2013 Share #31 Posted July 29, 2013 stealth3kpl -- not sure i understand, that is a pretty darn good photo shown there, was it that hard to get done right? i have tiff files done for me commercially and they seem okay to me and where they aren't there is more than enough latitude to adjust in c1 or lr4. the latitude, in fact, surprises me in a good way relative to how one can manipulate a dng. anyway, just asking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 30, 2013 Share #32 Posted July 30, 2013 Wonderful photos, Henry. I almost agree with what you wrote in post #300 in that thread. I'd say that "film pictures are always more beautiful". But that's just me of course Thank you Philipus for looking and commenting Photographer is a risky job more than medicine , because I nearly lost my camera and fall, wanting to lean outside Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #33 Posted July 30, 2013 I had some time today to 'reprocess' 2 picture I posted in the 'OP'. In picture #2 I also added a graduate filter from the top, for the more blue sky! Couldn't resist the digital editing, but thats why we shoot film, and then scan right? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/209491-kodak-portra-400-scanned-with-nikon-ls4000ed/?do=findComment&comment=2385930'>More sharing options...
erl Posted July 30, 2013 Share #34 Posted July 30, 2013 Jip, you have improved the first pic, in the skin tones. I think that is a better copy. The second one looks like it has some cyan in the blue sky you introduced. I think I preferred the plain sky, but that is only personal preference, not right or wrong. It is good to revisit scans sometimes and rework them I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #35 Posted July 30, 2013 Yes I did the blue on purpose, but if you don't look at the sky and just the overal colour palette. I think they are both improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted August 1, 2013 Share #36 Posted August 1, 2013 Pete, I'm not sure I understand - do you mean that you've stopped scanning colour negs because the colours are difficult to get right due to the orange mask, or something else? CheersPhilip I mean I'm lazy and incompetent I only scan those shots that the lab have scanned on auto resulting in the wrong area of the image being exposed for by the scanner. Like this one: Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 1, 2013 Share #37 Posted August 1, 2013 Erl,Jip and all lovers of film specially Kodak Portra, i have posted some more uncorrected pictures here posts n° 289,290,291,294 raw scan Tiff> Jpeg for posting http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-15.html where you can see the relief of balloons that gives the film and not the M9 (Kodak ccd sensor ) , except corrected in photo software (post 21 of this link below) http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/landscape-travel/294184-mondial-air-ballons-2013-a-2.html Film is not dead Regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 1, 2013 Share #38 Posted August 1, 2013 I mean I'm lazy and incompetent I only scan those shots that the lab have scanned on auto resulting in the wrong area of the image being exposed for by the scanner. Like this one: Pete Pete , nice picture, i took the same picture through the big clock of Orsay museum (but with my M9) , where you can see the Sacre-Coeur Montmartre at Paris Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted August 3, 2013 Share #39 Posted August 3, 2013 The first rule is to take the scanner off anything automatic. Do a manual scan and do a manual color correction, then save the settings. This will work with all shots on that film exposed under the the correct light source, ie sun or flash. You want a scan of correct color and histogram not clipped at either end. All the rest is best done in photoshop. You will need levels and curves. Curves for contrast , then levels for black and white. Then sharpen. That is whole different world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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