lct Posted July 23, 2013 Share #21 Â Posted July 23, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Some of your portraits have been shot with 85mm+ lenses if i'm not mistaken so if you don't like the 75mm focal length i would choose a 50 personally. If you like the image quality of your 75/2, the 50/1.4 asph is made for you. It is a FLE lens like the 75/2 though so better try it in person to check the smoothness of its focus ring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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satureyes Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share #22  Posted July 23, 2013 Have 75 Cron and Lux and love them. That said use 75 somewhat sparingly, but when it's good, it's very, very good. Question may be why you are not using 75. Wonderful for portraits and as good short telephoto. Also have 90 Elmarit and have to have one. Perhaps your mind is not considering the 75 angle.  Also have no issue focusing. Assume you have checked the body and lens to confirm they work to spec. If you don't nail the focus perhaps that's why you are shying away from the 75.  Your current range of lenses is wonderful. Hey, go out tomorrow with just the 75 to shoot a "roll of 36" and see what happens  Ed  It's exactly that - I am having trouble 'visualising' 75mm.  I know some shots in my portfolio are shot on longer lenses.. but I think of them differently with the DSLR.. I do use a 70-200 quite a lot - but more for laziness than need.  I did take the 75mm out last weekend and just didn't feel that I 'saw' the shots as much as I do with wides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 23, 2013 Share #23 Â Posted July 23, 2013 Clearly we are all different animals, otherwise we would all end up with the 'same wife' and 'same lenses'. Â My take on the 75AA cron is that it is close to my most used lens. Why? I think because on 35mm format, the 75mm is closest to how our eyes see, not 50mm as many would have you believe. When we see something of interest we note that we can see approx the same coverage as the 50mm. But, the real point of interest is so often just the central portion of what we see which is much closer to the 75mm coverage. Â How many times have you seen a 'shot' and with your 50mm attached, taken a few steps closer and nabbed it. Voila! With the 75mm, no steps. Just see and shoot. Just my POV and 'logic'. Â It makes both a great normal and short tele lens. Real magic, for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satureyes Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share #24 Â Posted July 23, 2013 Clearly we are all different animals, otherwise we would all end up with the 'same wife' and 'same lenses'. Â My take on the 75AA cron is that it is close to my most used lens. Why? I think because on 35mm format, the 75mm is closest to how our eyes see, not 50mm as many would have you believe. When we see something of interest we note that we can see approx the same coverage as the 50mm. But, the real point of interest is so often just the central portion of what we see which is much closer to the 75mm coverage. Â How many times have you seen a 'shot' and with your 50mm attached, taken a few steps closer and nabbed it. Voila! With the 75mm, no steps. Just see and shoot. Just my POV and 'logic'. Â It makes both a great normal and short tele lens. Real magic, for me. Â I'm puzzled why I'm missing this. Makes me wonder if I'm just not using it enough.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 23, 2013 Share #25 Â Posted July 23, 2013 The only fight you will have with the 75mm on the M9 is with those crappy framelines. Learn to live with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satureyes Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share #26 Â Posted July 23, 2013 The only fight you will have with the 75mm on the M9 is with those crappy framelines. Learn to live with them. Â Not an issue on the M 240 with EVF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted July 23, 2013 Share #27  Posted July 23, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) My take on the 75AA cron is that it is close to my most used lens. Why? I think because on 35mm format, the 75mm is closest to how our eyes see, not 50mm as many would have you believe. When we see something of interest we note that we can see approx the same coverage as the 50mm. But, the real point of interest is so often just the central portion of what we see which is much closer to the 75mm coverage. How many times have you seen a 'shot' and with your 50mm attached, taken a few steps closer and nabbed it. Voila! With the 75mm, no steps. Just see and shoot. Just my POV and 'logic'.  It makes both a great normal and short tele lens. Real magic, for me.  I think this is a really insightful comment. Has inspired me to go out with the 75 and work harder at adjusting my 'vision' to the focal length.  Thanks John. BTW loved your book: 'Personalities'. Very human connections with the subjects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 1, 2013 Share #28 Â Posted August 1, 2013 Not an issue on the M 240 with EVF Â Also not a problem with the M due to the electronic frame lines for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverathke Posted August 1, 2013 Share #29 Â Posted August 1, 2013 I have 5 Leica lenses (including the 0.95 Nocti). Of the 5, my 75 Cron is my favorite lens for street photography. I like its light weight and the quick focusing ring, as well as the discrete nature with which I can take the closer shot.. My Nocti is a close second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted August 1, 2013 Share #30 Â Posted August 1, 2013 I dont know why - but I dont feel the magic.. I have that set too. Â I just can't 'see' things at that FL with my M but...I don't know why! I find the 75 a useful companion when going out with the 35. It just allows me to introduce useful separation and moderate isolation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreed2754 Posted August 2, 2013 Share #31 Â Posted August 2, 2013 Rick, beginning to better understand your perspective and have given it more thought. Â In some ways the 75 is a tweener lens, a fortified 50 and a wider 90 or short tele. Sometimes when want a 50 type shot but with a narrower view, the 75 is perfect. Â Other times want a fine quality landscape that might crop anyways given where I am standing and again voila! Â Having traveled a lot, often find cannot back up or step forward enough to help. That means using the best lens available. Â While this may seem too obvious, if one has time or inclination to study a scene, decide what you want to say and then consider the best view or light to make your statement with the least cropping, you have found your best lens. Perhaps 20% or the time it is my 75 unless I'm shooting concerts then it may be my 80% lens solution. Â Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 2, 2013 Share #32  Posted August 2, 2013 The only fight you will have with the 75mm on the M9 is with those crappy framelines. Learn to live with them. FWIW, the framelines of the M 240 (pic) are not the same as those of the M9. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/209298-my-75mm-is-sitting-lonely/?do=findComment&comment=2388517'>More sharing options...
elgenper Posted August 2, 2013 Share #33 Â Posted August 2, 2013 FWIW, the framelines of the M 240 (pic) are not the same as those of the M9. Â ??? On my M9, they look exactly the same as in your sketch, both the 50 and 75 frames.... Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted August 2, 2013 Share #34  Posted August 2, 2013 The only fight you will have with the 75 mm on the M9 is with those crappy framelines. Learn to live with them. It's very easy to live with them because in fact, they are the best framelines of them all. The only issue is the presence of the bold 50 mm framelines which tend to take precedence in your vision. It takes a little time to get used to actually look at the 75 mm framelines when using the 75 mm lens. As soon as you've learned to ignore the 50 mm frame, you'll love the 75 mm framelines with their clearly defined corners.   FWIW, the framelines of the M (Typ 240) are not the same as those of the M9. Huh!? As far as I can tell, their shapes are exactly the same.  The only differences are the methods of illumination and the optimisation for 1 m (M9) and 2 m (M—very much preferred). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 2, 2013 Share #35 Â Posted August 2, 2013 ??? On my M9, they look exactly the same as in your sketch, both the 50 and 75 frames... Interesting indeed. I have the M9 manual (page 98) in front of me and they look different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted August 2, 2013 Share #36 Â Posted August 2, 2013 I have the M9 manual (page 98) in front of me and they look different. I have the M9 and the M in my hand, and their framelines look exactly the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 2, 2013 Share #37 Â Posted August 2, 2013 Perhaps there is a bug in the manual then. Are you sure all M9 samples are the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted August 2, 2013 Share #38 Â Posted August 2, 2013 Perhaps there is a bug in the manual then. Now I took a look at the M9 manual (PDF version) ... and yes, the pictures there are wrong. It's just diagrams illustrating the principle; they are not terribly accurate with regard to the details of the actual framelines' shapes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 2, 2013 Share #39 Â Posted August 2, 2013 Framelines on a RF are not brilliant at best, but the 75mm framelines on the M9 are crap. I have leaned to live with them, as one of my most used focal lengths, but I don't have to love them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted August 2, 2013 Share #40 Â Posted August 2, 2013 I agree the 75mm frame lines are rubbish. If you use the lens alot you get to used to it, which is fine. But I use my 50 more and if I don't use the 75mm for a while I find myself, at first, without thinking, reverting back to the 50 lines when I put it back on. Â It's my only real irritation of the system that is left. Not a deal breaker but not the most user friendly design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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