jaapv Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share #101 Posted July 20, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Using Lindolfi's method I get 1.2 consistently on the M with Lexar, 2.4 using Panasonic Gold, and on the M9 1.0. Remarks: Startup appears to be slightly faster not pressing the shutter. Wakeup seems slightly faster too. The inaccuracy of this method is in the coordination between left and right hand. At any rate good enough for me. I am off shooting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Hi jaapv, Take a look here M Typ 240 startup time. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Lindolfi Posted July 20, 2013 Share #102 Posted July 20, 2013 The inaccuracy of this method is in the coordination between left and right hand. . Which can be tested by starting two stopwatches simultaneously with left and right hand and stopping them simultaneously after switching hands. If there is a systematic difference, this will by doubled by this method in the difference in time between the two stopwatches. Don't worry, unless you have some neurological problem, the difference is unimportant in this experiment (less than 0.1 sec) You get the same result, by recording the sound of switching on and the shutter release with recording software (like "Audacity") that shows the sound waves graphically with an accurate timescale. Concerning the practical importance of startup time (issue raised again by thigh slapper), I have missed two shots up till now after being surprised by an event in the street, but having prefocussed with a 21 mm lens. So even 1.4 seconds can be too long. On the whole I'm not complaining at all. Especially the increase in single shot repetitions in RF mode (not LV) is sometimes very useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share #103 Posted July 20, 2013 It is not pressing with both hands, it is pressing with one and turning with the other. The thing I appreciate mainly is the shorter blackout of the EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 20, 2013 Share #104 Posted July 20, 2013 Amazing. While Jaap's Lexar 600x card did not do miracles for me (2 sec.) i got a mere one second startup time with an old 2GB Transcend card i reserved for my R-D1. If you come across a guy with a $7K camera and pockets full of $10 cards, it's me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share #105 Posted July 20, 2013 :confused:Weird.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 20, 2013 Share #106 Posted July 20, 2013 To say the least given that it is a slow card otherwise: 25 secs blinking time after 7 shots in C mode vs 12 secs for my fastest cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 20, 2013 Share #107 Posted July 20, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have three copies of it. All work the same. Forget it for LV though. Too slow. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/208945-m-typ-240-startup-time/?do=findComment&comment=2378929'>More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 20, 2013 Share #108 Posted July 20, 2013 :confused:Weird.... Nah, magical, maybe? This exercise looks like fun, almost as challenging as taking a picture of a hummingbird in flight HIF. Now, when will they make my M and send it? Before or after they fixed all the annoyances - that is the question! And Bert, thanks a lot for your efforts. Leica should adopt your methodology! Maybe they could even automate it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted July 20, 2013 Share #109 Posted July 20, 2013 What we need is an app that tests cards for compliance to the standard, and then hold Leica to those standards. OTOH, other camera makers could have such smart firmware that they accommodate stupid cards. Dunno! Do you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted August 31, 2013 Share #110 Posted August 31, 2013 that is more than strange: I bought a 8GB Extreme Pro sun disk 95MB/s start up time was with that 8GB much faster than with the 16GB Extreme Pro sun disk 95MB/s in my M. than I tried the card in the monochrome - formatted it there - no speed improvement to my old 45mb/s card in the MM (what i expected). Than when I put the 8GB Extreme Pro back in the M start up time was slow!!!!! again. No formatting helped! Than I formatted the card in my OM-D.... and wonder start up time was fast again in the M!! Even when I formatted the card in the M start up time stayed quick. So formatting the cards in an "old" MMonochrom made them slow when put back in a modern M!!! No formatting in the M helped to bring the card back to the fast start up time... just the formartting in the Olympus OM-D made it fast again...... why is that?????? I have no idea... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 31, 2013 Share #111 Posted August 31, 2013 Look at the 2nd column of my spreadsheet here http://tinyurl.com/kp8qe83 ["Startup Time (ICF)"]. Those are cards previously formatted with PCs or other cameras. To get their shorter startup time on the M240, they must be formatted with SDFormatter [3rd column: "Startup Time (SDF)"]. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huckles Posted September 1, 2013 Share #112 Posted September 1, 2013 My personal experience that it may not be related to the SD card? Sometimes bringing it up to my face and activating it at the same time, I can shoot it instantly.. sometimes there is a delay (frustratingly), it seems very random. To compound things, sometimes when I go to activate with a half press, it takes a photo instantly unintentionally... which leads me to believe that it is a random occurance and dependant on something else other than the SD card? I use San disk Extreme Pro 16Gbs 95MB/s. Formatting in camera. But having said all this, I have only missed a couple of shots here and there because of the random delay. Not a terrible big deal, but should be almost instant I think... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 1, 2013 Share #113 Posted September 1, 2013 :confused:Weird.... not really........ if the camera was running a memory check on the card or reading the data then the capacity would make a big difference. in my experience this is more of a factor than the alleged speed of the card. I am currently using an old Sandisk 4Gb card and it is consistently 1.7 secs, which is the fastest I have achieved with any card to date (if measured properly). what is clear is that Leica implements a different start-up procedure to many other manufacturers .... as I fail to believe the interface and processing differences are so great that theirs can be virtually instant and Leica's is approx 2 secs ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted September 1, 2013 Share #114 Posted September 1, 2013 Hello, just letting you know , received my M, couple of weeks ago, and this is non issue for me as my M240 , starts up almost instantly. Card using is 8 gb sandisk extreme. Any body else M start up non issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2013 Share #115 Posted September 1, 2013 ...this is non issue for me as my M240 , starts up almost instantly... Would you mind to measure your startup times please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted September 1, 2013 Share #116 Posted September 1, 2013 Will do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2013 Share #117 Posted September 1, 2013 For those interested, you might wish to try this Online Stopwatch. Switch the camera off, aim it at the monitor, hold down the shutter release, switch the camera on whilst hitting the start button of the stopwatch and look at the pic. I do that thrice and take the average personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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