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I bought my m-e when I knew that the M was coming around the corner.

I didn't want the M for these reason:

1. M was a lot more expensive

2. I don't need the extra functions on the M, I have my dslr for that.

2.1 - I enjoy the real simple experience with the M-E, essence of photography

 

I have not regret my decision.

 

The only upgrades I would like to have to my M-E is:

1. Better sounding and more discreet shutter

2. Better LCD + sapphire glass

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I moved from an M8 to an M9 in 2012 and love it, it's a keeper as far as I am concerned, it's way more talented than me and only the lack of wide angle with the M8 drove the change before.

 

I agree on the colour front, very rich and vibrant, not something easily achieved from what I have seen from other cameras. They don't look as 'right'

 

The low light colours from the f1.0 Noctilux with the M9-P, made me move back from 99% B&W to both again.

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Got my M-E in December.

I'm content and don't long for anything else.

Being a technologist, buying a third generation CCD family product is a good bet for me.(M8, M9, M-E)

Some call it old, I call it proven.

 

Worked faultlessly for 3000 actuations now, focus spot-on etc.

 

Looking at all the pictures on the web, the M240 hold no temptation for me while I love the M9 pictures.

 

I'm sure the M240 will get there but not with my money and time.

 

Johann

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Sure, it's louder than I'd like but I smile every time I look at a set of photos from my M9. The color is perfectly suited to my taste. And, yes, the M9's color looks like Kodachrome 64 with a few extra stops of dynamic range.

 

The M does not tempt me but I am saving my pennies for a Monochrom.

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Do you think there are many who purchased a m9 or M-E and regretted not waiting for the m240? Why or why not?

 

Odd question to ask, as the only people who can truly answer it are the ones who purchased the M9 recently.

 

I've owned my M9 since 2009, and still am as enamored today as I was in Dec 2009. That being said, there are a few things I want to see Leica do in order for me to upgrade*:

- Weather seals

- Relocation of the ISO button so that I can use it without looking away from the viewfinder

- Make the camera studio friendly: add LiveView and PC sync port, and a stretch goal of a tilting LCD

 

With the M240, Leica has done most of these except for ISO relocation (though I'm hopeful that a firmware update will allow the video button to be used for this). Until these conditions have been met, I've little reason to upgrade.

 

*Leica did the one thing and did it totally unexpectedly that makes the camera instantly more desirable: they made the rangefinder more accurate. It is the one single thing that is most useful to me and most used by me. I now find myself is an odd position of trying to decide between a lens purchase this year or skipping the lens and purchasing the M240 some time late next year. I'm trying to adhere to my original: lens purchase this year, camera upgrade in three.

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Bought the 9 just before the new model was due. I do not regret it, in fact have considered a ME so the 9 would not be so lonely in the bag.

 

Unfortunately will miss the USB port and the preview somewhat less.

 

The best thing about the 240 is the R solution and I have one called Nikon/Leitax.

 

18 to 25 MP means little. I use low ISO 99% of the time.

 

In the mean time, the 9 will have to remain friends with the 8 which I consider a competent camera once I profiled the colors with Adobe Profile Editor.

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]I didn't want the M for these reason:

 

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2.1 - I enjoy the real simple experience with the M-E, essence of photography

 

 

An M can be used in the traditional RF mode, without any interference from other functions. Just don't turn them on; the camera is otherwise almost identical in size, albeit heavier due to the significantly improved battery. Plus you get your wish for quieter shutter and better screen. Plus weather sealing, better 2m and illuminated frame lines, improved RF, longer battery life, and faster processor.

 

And even if one never uses live view for taking pics, it can be a useful tool to quickly determine if one has a calibration problem with camera RF and/or lens.

 

Those benefits are worth the extra $ to me, but not to others. Different strokes.

 

Jeff

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I got an M-E in January, and in the beginning it was simply amazing. Fantastic colors and handling, and I could finally use my 50 lux asph on a full-frame camera. However, I had countless troubles with various SD cards, and I figured the camera wasn't reliable enough for professional use (I'm sure a lot other users have had trouble free use with this camera, so I consider myself a bit unlucky). It was a sad moment when I sold it a few months later, but I have an order for an M240, and while I'm waiting I use the Fuji Xpro 1 with a Leica adapter. Surprisingly for a mirrorless camera, the Xpro 1 is more than adequate for professional use (I shoot mainly portraits and fashion), but I can't wait to get my hands on the new M soon.

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I got my M9-P second hand right after the M was announced. I continue to have no desire to buy the new one - I love it!

 

I think part of the reason is that it's such a simple/refined looking camera. No red dot, no additional buttons etc, but the reality is that I wouldn't be shooting anything differently if I had the Typ 240, so there's no driver for purchasing one.

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I bought the ME in December and recently upgraded to an M240.

 

Did I regret buying the ME? Not for one minute. Went from an M8 to ME which was a wonderful upgrade, also managed to take lots of wonderful shots with it.

 

Reasons I bought the M240:

Better battery life (heaps heaps better)

Better ISO

Quieter shutter speed

Live view for using my visoflex (I sold my DSLRs long time ago, simpler system

Possibility to sell of all the external VFs, already have an Olympus EVF2

Live view for fisheye, using grad filters.

Faster processor (preview and menu is much faster)

Video for the rare times I use it and don't have to resort to my iPhone)

 

As a hobbyist it's important for the experience to be enjoyable, LV is something I rarely use but offers the flexibility when I need it without having to resort to using other cameras. Now I can sell of my PnS too.

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I have the M9 since it came out and have no intention to "upgrade" to the M240. If Leica were to release a next generation M9 with larger buffer, faster file write time, improved lcd, the M240 sensor and everything slimmed down by a few mm and 100 grams, I would be all over it. Sort of a minimalistic digital RF for 2015.

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Anyone wishing to make regretful purchase; at Heathrow T5, in Dixons Duty-Free M9P Chrome is selling for £4400, price is good on any flight.

 

I have no affiliation with either T5 or Dixons just happen to be passing thru the airport four days ago.

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I have a set of excellent R lenses that keep my excellent M lenses company so the M240 was a no brainer for me. I held off upgrading my M8 to an M9 until I succumbed to an M9-P, which I moved on with a convenient trade 3 weeks after taking delivery of my M240 (I had intended to retain my beloved M9-P but on reflection it probably would have just gathered dust).

 

I now have a traditional M camera that I can use for macro shots, long telephoto shots, or as a traditional rangefinder whenever it suits me. Video isn't something which interests me.

 

Yes, there's been a lot written about the M240's colours, although I haven't noticed a problem in mine, but as a like-for-like replacement for my M9-P I'm sold because the shutter is much quieter, the high ISO performance is better, it's 'weather-sealed', and the rangefinder is more accurate. What's not to like?:o

 

Pete.

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No, I would not think so of regrets. Imagine of regretting yourself like this "OH! That would be a fantastic shot if I took it with my M... but... unfortunately, I don't have a camera at the moment because I'm waiting for my M240 to arrive..."

 

And imagine having that sentence numerous times.

 

Yes you CAN buy a non-M for your Leica lenses, but... they're just different. I wouldn't say better or worse and raise a debate, but I prefer an M body for my Leica lenses.

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Bought my M9 8 months ago. Shoot it every day, 4500 actuations and it's settled in perfectly..no issues whatsoever. Recently bought a Monochrom, put 400 actuations on it..but at the moment prefer the images I can get out of my M9 better. Perhaps I need more time with the Monochrom and educate myself on Lightroom development of the images. Either way I'm keeping them both. No desire to go to M240 at all...would rather grab another M9 body as I prefer it's renderings to that of the M240. Newer is not always better.

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I bought my M9 about 6 months after they came out. I wanted the full frame. When the MM was announced, I though why? When the M240 was announced, I thought no way as I was not interested in live view or video. I have been an M enthusiast since the M6 so I guess I am a traditionalist and yes I used a lot of Kodachrome. I will quit digressing and say that I bought the MM and could not be happier with my M9 and MM. A great combo.

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