eosphoros Posted June 29, 2013 Share #1 Posted June 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) My new M won't turn on today after being last used two days ago. According to the charger, the battery is charged above 80% but there is simply no response from the camera after inserting the battery or turning it on to any setting. Does anyone have any ideas short of sending it back to get it serviced? I have my first overseas trip since I got the camera in a few days and would really love for it to accompany me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted June 29, 2013 Share #2 Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Contact Leica Customer Service and your dealer, preferably by phone, first thing Monday morning. Contact details are on Leica's website. I see you are in Australia. I think you should consider alternatives for your trip.There are not enough cameras to go around, so an outright replacement, which would be the normal procedure, is highly unlikely and the round trip to Solms will take time from Australia, I fear. Edited June 29, 2013 by jaapv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosphoros Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted June 29, 2013 I realise that the camera has been sitting in a cold (and I think a little damp) house for the past two days. I left it out before I rushed off for a trip and came back to find it not working. I currently have the heater on full blast and hoping that it has something to do with temperature and condensation and that it will turn on again soon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 29, 2013 Share #4 Posted June 29, 2013 If it is internal condensation that is bad news; you should have Leica check out the camera at the first opportunity if this revives it. Condensation leads to oxidation which kills cameras. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosphoros Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted June 29, 2013 I'm just speculating really. It is the only thing I can think of because I used it just fine before I left and while I was away, it has been cold and raining torrentially in Sydney. But on the thought of condensation, wouldn't the weather sealing prevent any such condensation within the camera itself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 29, 2013 Share #6 Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Do check the battery again, if possible, try another one. Both chargers and batteries have been known to go wrong and indicate a charge whilst being, in fact, empty. No, internal condensation is not prevented by weather sealing, reason why you use Silicagel in underwater housings. It is a highly unlikely scenario, though. Edited June 29, 2013 by jaapv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosphoros Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted June 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've just had the camera wrapped under some duvets in a heated room for the last 30 minutes and it is now turning on. Does this indicate that its malfunction was due to the cold temperature? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 29, 2013 Share #8 Posted June 29, 2013 Something not right..the M is meant to operate in relative extremes of temperature, not just temperate days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted June 29, 2013 Share #9 Posted June 29, 2013 Probably it was just a hiccup. I would use it until it happens again, then it will be due to Leica service. If it doesn't happen again, all the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted June 29, 2013 Share #10 Posted June 29, 2013 I've just had the camera wrapped under some duvets in a heated room for the last 30 minutes and it is now turning on. Does this indicate that its malfunction was due to the cold temperature? It does sound more like a battery issue now because batteries are known to operate less efficiently when they are cold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luakbay Posted June 30, 2013 Share #11 Posted June 30, 2013 Hi, I got the same problem now, and it is Summer in Shanghai, and I took few photos this afternoon, and the battery also like 80% and above, but just now in the evening, I tried to switch it on, but it won't turn on! I am now charging the battery again...anyone has the same issue? Best regards, Kong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 30, 2013 Share #12 Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Hi, I got the same problem now, and it is Summer in Shanghai, and I took few photos this afternoon, and the battery also like 80% and above, but just now in the evening, I tried to switch it on, but it won't turn on! I am now charging the battery again...anyone has the same issue? Best regards, Kong Hi Kong, Maybe your battery got drained - for whatever reason. Good luck in getting your camera functioning again. Edited June 30, 2013 by k-hawinkler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 30, 2013 Share #13 Posted June 30, 2013 I had a fake Leica battery that simply would not charge properly. Check the CE label. Counterfeit batteries often have an incorrectly kerned logo as shown here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luakbay Posted June 30, 2013 Share #14 Posted June 30, 2013 Hi Kong, Maybe your battery got drained - for whatever reason. Good luck in getting your camera functioning again. Battery charged overnight but not able to turn on. I will see how to replace a new battery if not...major problem! And this Camera just return from fixing the eyelets in Germany, I will be amazed if it failed the QC test again. Best regards, Kong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 30, 2013 Share #15 Posted June 30, 2013 I had a fake Leica battery that simply would not charge properly. Check the CE label. Counterfeit batteries often have an incorrectly kerned logo as shown here.I doubt that there are counterfeit M240 batteries on the market already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 1, 2013 Share #16 Posted July 1, 2013 I realise that the camera has been sitting in a cold (and I think a little damp) house for the past two days. I left it out before I rushed off for a trip and came back to find it not working. I currently have the heater on full blast and hoping that it has something to do with temperature and condensation and that it will turn on again soon... Possibly the camera was just slow to wake up? Another reason might be if it was trying to write a file when it was turned off or if you accidentally went to Liveview? Sydney (and Brisbane right now) is not cold enough to cause battery failures only motivation failures when we don't feel like going outside in rainy weather ;-) I would get a spare battery anyway if you don't have one already and try that one. Leica Camera Australia had stock last week when I got my M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luakbay Posted July 1, 2013 Share #17 Posted July 1, 2013 Possibly the camera was just slow to wake up? Another reason might be if it was trying to write a file when it was turned off or if you accidentally went to Liveview? Sydney (and Brisbane right now) is not cold enough to cause battery failures only motivation failures when we don't feel like going outside in rainy weather ;-) I would get a spare battery anyway if you don't have one already and try that one. Leica Camera Australia had stock last week when I got my M Geoff, I think the battery is dead! I will see if i can get another battery tomorrow from Leica or agent to see if indeed a battery problem. It is not a fake battery, my M240 bought directly from Leica Store. Kong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 1, 2013 Share #18 Posted July 1, 2013 Another possibility is the charger. Maybe your store has spare batteries in stock and perhaps can try the charger from their demo camera for you? I don't know your dealer but I'd suggest that the boutique store in Sydney would at least have a demo camera on the shelf which would have its charger of course. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 1, 2013 Share #19 Posted July 1, 2013 It doesn't sound like a direct correlation, but is this to do with the internal battery not having enough time to charge from the main battery? People charge the main battery, use the camera, take it out to re-charge it, and all the time the internal battery isn't being fully charged as it should be the first time the camera is used. Just a thought. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luakbay Posted July 3, 2013 Share #20 Posted July 3, 2013 Today I bought another new battery and confirmed the camera is dead. And also confirmed my battery is good as it was tested with another M; perfectly working. Very disappointed with the QC department and somehow lost confidence in Leica. The camera just returned from fixing the eyelets and cleaning the sensor less than two weeks ago from Germany! I heard from another authorised dealer than the first batch had this issue before, a guy bought the camera and it was dead in 24 hours! So my advice is don't buy the first batch! ever! Kong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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