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Gary first led me to Hasselblad and more recently to the XPan modification of the film back. Takes around 3 months but very much worth it. It produces 27 photos/roll in XPan aspect ratio (of course 56 mm rather than 70mm wide; but with the SWC so sharp that enlargement is trivial). Very first test roll yesterday of Providence RI Gay Pride Day, on FP4 in Pyrocat.

When I was wrestling with whether to buy an actual XPan and looking at the photos on flickr, my eye was drawn not to the landscapes but to the cityscapes. That aspect ratio is really effective at telling a human story. But I do need to begin adjusting for distortion.

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11 hours ago, bags27 said:

Gary first led me to Hasselblad and more recently to the XPan modification of the film back. Takes around 3 months but very much worth it. It produces 27 photos/roll in XPan aspect ratio (of course 56 mm rather than 70mm wide; but with the SWC so sharp that enlargement is trivial). Very first test roll yesterday of Providence RI Gay Pride Day, on FP4 in Pyrocat.

When I was wrestling with whether to buy an actual XPan and looking at the photos on flickr, my eye was drawn not to the landscapes but to the cityscapes. That aspect ratio is really effective at telling a human story. But I do need to begin adjusting for distortion.

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Congrats Ken, sorry to be causing your wallet to open more often, truly. What I also liked about the P27 magazine was that it isn't only SWC etc, it can fit nicely with the 150 Sonnar on my 503CXi, something I struggled with when I used my self-made "sprocket" magazine (35mm film in the A-24 magazine).

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Kite day in the 80s. Guessing Fujichrome as it was usually my go to film once I had weaned from Kodachrome.

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This guy really enjoyed the attention of the Hasselblad. He couldn't believe it was a 'still' film camera!

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Let sleeping dogs lie.

M6 & 75mm Cron shooting Delta100.

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vor 6 Stunden schrieb erl:

'Street' with Hasselblad & 3200iso film

Using my Hasselblad 203FE & 110mm Planar lens, I exposed a roll of Delta 3200iso film.

I am very impressed with the rendition as I was mainly shooting in 'The Black Hole Of Calcutta' (my nickname for Melbourne Laneways). The grain is barely perceptible, unlike the 35mm version of the same film. Aperture was mainly f2.8 to render subject separation. This film allows me to bring the Hasselblad into the realm of candid street photography by permitting acceptable shutter speeds despite the DARK environment I habituate. However, it is not 'move over Leica'. Both brands have positive virtues for such work.

These two girl provided an easy target to practice on.

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Impressive, Erl !  Nice grain-or the absence thereof- and nice tonality.  Since I have a  few rolls of Delta 3200 in my fridge -- may I ask how you expose and what developer you are using ? There are conflicting informations on that: my Lab tells me to expose for 1000-"3200 is push"; but there are online suggestions using 3200 as standard... Massive Dev Chart lists IE from  25 (!) to 6400...  

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37 minutes ago, Kl@usW. said:

Impressive, Erl !  Nice grain-or the absence thereof- and nice tonality.  Since I have a  few rolls of Delta 3200 in my fridge -- may I ask how you expose and what developer you are using ? There are conflicting informations on that: my Lab tells me to expose for 1000-"3200 is push"; but there are online suggestions using 3200 as standard... Massive Dev Chart lists IE from  25 (!) to 6400...  

It is a bit like a 'tin of worms'. In my case, I exposed @ 3200, and developed in the JOBO B&W developer @ 24Deg C, for 14 minutes. I process in a JOBO rotary processor and the dev is specially formulated for continuous rotation. I think Xtol would also be a good dev, but your particular setup will dictate how you vary it. I started out choosing my recipe for Delta 400 pushed to 1600iso and found that to be Fine.

I have a couple of very OOD rolls. One of which processed with a very heavy base fog. However, it scanned OK. The pics you see here are from a fresh roll and the base fog is significantly reduced.

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Fuji 160S very much expired, doing the best it can in a 501CM.  Frank Lloyd Wright house.  Pennsylvania.

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vor 4 Stunden schrieb erl:

It is a bit like a 'tin of worms'. In my case, I exposed @ 3200, and developed in the JOBO B&W developer @ 24Deg C, for 14 minutes. I process in a JOBO rotary processor and the dev is specially formulated for continuous rotation. I think Xtol would also be a good dev, but your particular setup will dictate how you vary it. I started out choosing my recipe for Delta 400 pushed to 1600iso and found that to be Fine.

I have a couple of very OOD rolls. One of which processed with a very heavy base fog. However, it scanned OK. The pics you see here are from a fresh roll and the base fog is significantly reduced.

Thanks, Erl, that’s helpful. I tried Delta in the 35mm version and found it too grainy for my taste. Just my personal opinion, of course... Your result with rotary development at 3200, however, is very attractive and once again puts the Jobo machine in the spotlight. May I ask what your overall assessment of rotary development is? There’s always that rumor going around that results with the inversion method are sharper and less grainy...

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4 hours ago, Kl@usW. said:

Thanks, Erl, that’s helpful. I tried Delta in the 35mm version and found it too grainy for my taste. Just my personal opinion, of course... Your result with rotary development at 3200, however, is very attractive and once again puts the Jobo machine in the spotlight. May I ask what your overall assessment of rotary development is? There’s always that rumor going around that results with the inversion method are sharper and less grainy...

I think rotary or continuous agitation will always be grainier than standard inversion every minute or two.

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1 hour ago, Pyrogallol said:

I think rotary or continuous agitation will always be grainier than standard inversion every minute or two.

I don't have the sharpest eye for grain, but I've been using a table (unheated) rotary for B&W for 2 years, though mainly for lowish-ISO 120 film. I haven't seen the difference.

Just today, I ordered the amazing AGO rotary processor, so that I can do color and slides without immersion and constant temperature as well. All the reviews are wildly enthusiastic, some by professional photographers, for everything from 135 to 8x10.

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M3 cron 50 Kodak Diafilm

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7 hours ago, Kl@usW. said:

Thanks, Erl, that’s helpful. I tried Delta in the 35mm version and found it too grainy for my taste. Just my personal opinion, of course... Your result with rotary development at 3200, however, is very attractive and once again puts the Jobo machine in the spotlight. May I ask what your overall assessment of rotary development is? There’s always that rumor going around that results with the inversion method are sharper and less grainy...

Kl@usW, I have been using rotary processing for more years than I can count. Initially, it was to provide more consistent results than I could reliably get from a lab. Of course there was also a considerable time saving effect as well because of the travel time to the lab (Round trip 1 hour for each visit). That was for colour processing. But I also put through a heap of B&W film as well and the convenience of being able to load the machine and continue working on something else was enormous. I always, until recently used Kodak Xtol as my go to B&W develoer, always as a 'One Shot' process. Again, absolute consistency from the drum processor.

Grain is not the bogey some will make of it. Sometimes I shoot/process for grain as a design feature. Fine grain is perfectly possible with machine processing, and I have found greater aberrations in hand tank processing, with the exception of 'Stand Processing', but that has its own issues. In my experience, Delta films are fantastic and I am not interested in experimenting with others because it takes a long time to get a stabilized process that you like. Personally, I think the way one shoots, with light, is more critical for grain control than processing. Photography is  an ongoing experiment. One just hopes for a bonus occasionally.

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3 hours ago, Pyrogallol said:

I think rotary or continuous agitation will always be grainier than standard inversion every minute or two.

Pyrogallol, I accept your premise as valid in your experience, but my experience has never shown me any difference that is noticeable. I think the variables in processing are so wide that  attributing a factor, such as grain, as being solely due to the process is missing some elements. Recently, I have switched to using JOBO B&W developer, specifically formulated for continuous drum processing and for the first time I have noticed visible image improvement. The experiment continues. 

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M6 TTL, 35/1.4 Summilux, Efke 100, shot at 50

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