colonel Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1261  Posted June 6, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) It appears to reside squarely at the intersection of "uncompetitive" and "overpriced."  since when does Leica compete on price and features ?  thats a mass manufacturer game. We are talking about a company whose 3 year production on their top selling camera is less then a month of one model of Sony  it's USP is quality of construction, lens quality, handling and chic  if you have to ask the price ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Hi colonel, Take a look here Mini M? [MERGED] AKA X-Vario. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1262 Â Posted June 6, 2013 All the 'peek-a-boo' silliness is getting to be rather boring ... the novelty is wearing off and many of us have wasted a lot of time waiting for the next thrilling (not so now) instalment. Â There is a lot to be said for the 'sock it to me NOW' approach. Â This is a digital camera ... not the Messiah's second coming ... even though some may think otherwise. Â And by the way things are moving we will all know before 11 June what Gypsy Rose looks like and also be aware of the specification ... which will make the Leica Mini M Day something of an anti-climax ... a bit like hearing a repeat news broadcast on the radio or TV when second time around it all seems 'old hat'. Â dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1263 Â Posted June 6, 2013 Not sure why the Leica Vario X type 107 is in the "M" section? Â Mods, please would you shift this thread to the X1/X2 section? Â Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1264 Â Posted June 6, 2013 many of us have wasted a lot of time waiting for the next thrilling (not so now) instalment. Â There is a lot to be said for the 'sock it to me NOW' approach. Â good grief. you don't have to read stuff until the 11th you know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1265  Posted June 6, 2013 since when does Leica compete on price and features ? thats a mass manufacturer game. We are talking about a company whose 3 year production on their top selling camera is less then a month of one model of Sony  it's USP is quality of construction, lens quality, handling and chic  if you have to ask the price ......  And since when did I lump Leica into the mix of everyday manufacturers?  Read more carefully. I am aware of Leica's tangibles and intangibles. And after weighing it all, this appears underwhelming.  Also, this remains speculative and incomplete until we get all details from L on the 11th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1266  Posted June 6, 2013 New leak pictures, showing integrated urine analysis and is being built in conjunction with Canon and Federation support: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205247-mini-m-merged-aka-x-vario/?do=findComment&comment=2340834'>More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1267 Â Posted June 6, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Haha, it must really look like that to those who have no idea how to use those cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1268  Posted June 6, 2013 Mods, please would you shift this thread to the X1/X2 section? Thanks.  Clearly ain't gonna happen until the 11th when the "new M" is "revealed". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1269 Â Posted June 6, 2013 No, no. Here is the official photo. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1270  Posted June 6, 2013 No, no. Here is the official photo.  you'll go straight to hell for that one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1271  Posted June 6, 2013 No, no. Here is the official photo. http://www.digoliardi.net/tmp.jpg Nice. I always wondered where to stick the straw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1272 Â Posted June 6, 2013 Mini M = Maxi X:D Â An X1 or X2 is still pocketable, but for this one you need real big pockets:D:D Â John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1273 Â Posted June 6, 2013 Call me suspicious but...... Â I can't see that Leica Asia Pacific flyer anywhere (other than the rumour sites). We have members in that part of the world so if it's genuine one of them ought to have received it. Calling Singapore, confirmation anyone? Â (Out of idle curiosity I've emailed them. I would have called, but it's close to midnight local over there ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1274 Â Posted June 6, 2013 If you are an M owner -- any digital M -- the reason I could see for the new X-Vario to have appeal would be if it were of a size where you could throw it in a brief case or coat pocket when you really wouldn't want to have a full-sized M. But the dimensions aren't all that 'mini' -- with the fixed zoom lens, it's pretty close in size to an M. Yes, I know it's slightly heavier with the lens than the M without one, but the dimensions, all in, put this in the same rough zone as carrying an M and lens. Â I can see this appealing to someone who would like an X2, but needs a zoom. And honestly, it seems like it will be a good camera for some who wants Leica quality, doesn't want a 35mm RX-1 or X2, and doesn't have $10k to plunk down for an M + lens. Â But the fixed zoom size, and overall dimensions, mean this doesn't really appeal to me as an M owner, as it doesn't fill a gap. If I'm going to carry a camera of similar dimensions, I'll carry my M and some Summilux. So this isn't going to likely appeal to those of us on this sub-forum, I'd bet. Or am I wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl G Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1275 Â Posted June 6, 2013 I can see the new Vario X appealing to dozens of people worldwide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfloid Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1276 Â Posted June 6, 2013 Aw, c'mon, it's junk. Â If there were a separate APS-C 28-75mm (35mm equivalent) 3.5-6.3 lens for sale on any interchangeable lens APS-C camera - say a Sony NEX 7 or Fuji XE-l, would you buy it? No, of course not. Â This thing costs much more than the interchangeable lens competition, equipped with faster lenses and with built in EVFs. This is Leica just taking the p**s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1277  Posted June 6, 2013 Aw, c'mon, it's junk  What was it about the photos it took that you didn't like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1278 Â Posted June 6, 2013 What was it about the photos it took that you didn't like? Â Just found one of the dozens. 23 more and it's a roaring success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1279  Posted June 6, 2013 Call me suspicious but...... I can't see that Leica Asia Pacific flyer anywhere (other than the rumour sites)  It was posted on Leica's facebook page - that's where I downloaded it from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl G Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1280 Â Posted June 6, 2013 Just found one of the dozens. 23 more and it's a roaring success. Â And hopefully the wait time will be down for first delivery to those anxious 24 to mere months! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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