kokoshawnuff Posted July 21, 2013 Share #41 Posted July 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) There is no hidden T setting.... So this doesn't actually work? : I tried what jaapv suggested on my M. The shutter stays open as long as I want... On "S" it closes the shutter after 60 sec On self timer (set to 2sec) ... it does not ... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 Hi kokoshawnuff, Take a look here M 240 long exposure Bulb modus. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted July 21, 2013 Share #42 Posted July 21, 2013 On S you have to keep the shutter button depressed. On the M9/8 you had the function of switching to B and self timer and on release the camera shutter would stay open until you hit it a second time. That is T. The M has lost that feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted July 21, 2013 Share #43 Posted July 21, 2013 I tried what jaapv suggested on my M. The shutter stays open as long as I want... On "S" it closes the shutter after 60 sec On self timer (set to 2sec) ... it does not ... :-) In both cases it then goes and applies the black frame subtraction (60sec). Where in the "hidden" "T" mode it does something before that which takes approx. the time difference between the time the shutter was open and 60 sec. The display stays black, but the red light is on. Cheers Peter this is great news! can you post any samples of such exposures? How far have you tested it? Have you gone as long as the 240 seconds available with the M9? I was saddened by the apparent limitation to 60 seconds (and less at higher ISO's?) as I also thoroughly enjoy using the full 240 seconds on the M9- and wanted more from this new camera. I was also hoping that they might consider displaying the shutter countdown on the LCD along with aperture dial setting, iso and other basic information. It can be quite hard to adjust the dial on the M9 in the dark with any accuracy and peering through the finder to see how far the exposure has gone can be awkward when the camera is on the ground or similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted July 21, 2013 Share #44 Posted July 21, 2013 On S you have to keep the shutter button depressed. On the M9/8 you had the function of switching to B and self timer and on release the camera shutter would stay open until you hit it a second time. That is T.The M has lost that feature. So with a shutter release cable locked, exposures over 60 seconds are possible on the M? Thanks for the clarification... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted July 21, 2013 Share #45 Posted July 21, 2013 On S you have to keep the shutter button depressed. On the M9/8 you had the function of switching to B and self timer and on release the camera shutter would stay open until you hit it a second time. That is T.The M has lost that feature. but Jaap it sounds like- if I am reading Peter's post correctly- that it has gained another somewhat hidden feature which also acts as a T setting? or am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 21, 2013 Share #46 Posted July 21, 2013 In that case I am missing something as well. I have not yet found a real T setting on the |M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 21, 2013 Share #47 Posted July 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) So with a shutter release cable locked, exposures over 60 seconds are possible on the M? Thanks for the clarification... No. sixty seconds at base ISO is the maximum. If I want longer I have to get out the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted July 21, 2013 Share #48 Posted July 21, 2013 Has anyone tested Peter's method using the self timer and bulb mode (I'm assuming he had to keep the shutter button depressed like in film Ms)? Hopefully Peter will come back and clarify with some step-by-step instructions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2013 Share #49 Posted July 21, 2013 I tested it. Set my camera to self timer mode and used B speed, but the shutter closed after 60 seconds The other annoying thing is the second "black" exposure, which cannot be turned off as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted July 21, 2013 Share #50 Posted July 21, 2013 Jaap- have you actually read what Peter wrote above? Or are you suggesting he is wrong? I can't think why he would say what he said if it didn't work? he is saying you can do long exposure Over 60 Seconds with the M. Is he wrong or is he right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted July 21, 2013 Share #51 Posted July 21, 2013 I tested it. Set my camera to self timer mode and used B speed, but the shutter closed after 60 seconds The other annoying thing is the second "black" exposure, which cannot be turned off as well... did you have self timer set to 2 seconds as Peter stipulated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2013 Share #52 Posted July 21, 2013 Yes, I set it to 2 secs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 21, 2013 Share #53 Posted July 21, 2013 Jaap- have you actually read what Peter wrote above? Or are you suggesting he is wrong? I can't think why he would say what he said if it didn't work? he is saying you can do long exposure Over 60 Seconds with the M. Is he wrong or is he right? II'll reread it and try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 21, 2013 Share #54 Posted July 21, 2013 The shutter closed by itself after 15 sec.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted July 21, 2013 Share #55 Posted July 21, 2013 Too bad. Thanks, to Jaap and Zozzka, for trying though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2013 Share #56 Posted July 30, 2013 Maybe there's a little chance left to achieve unlimited shutter speed... The Leica M FAQ pdf document says: "The longest exposure time at ISO 200 is 60 seconds; the longest exposure time at ISO PUSH 6400 is eight seconds". But it says nothing about the "PULL 100" case My M is in CLA service in Solms, therefore I can't try it out right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gilgamesh Posted July 31, 2013 Share #57 Posted July 31, 2013 B setting and self timer on 2 sec = an exposure of 1/45th of a second. What a croc o' ! Set to C and 100 iso, still back to 60 seconds. What a croc o' ! A quick-fix in the next upgrade to the software? On past form, not a chance. Not difficult, but what the customer wants....... this is Leica after all. The Nikon recorded some lovely star trails three nights ago of several minutes after I lost my rag with the M and put her back in her box. Bulb. What a con. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted August 1, 2013 Share #58 Posted August 1, 2013 hmmm, i tried what peter said and it didn't work for me either.... I wonder why he said it!! Peter?? WTF?? It is a real shame- I really enjoyed using the M9 up to the full 240 seconds. The more the merrier. Does anyone think there is any chance that this will ever change with a firmware update? My feeling is NO. Such a shame... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted August 1, 2013 Share #59 Posted August 1, 2013 hmmm, i tried what peter said and it didn't work for me either.... I wonder why he said it!! Peter?? WTF?? It is a real shame- I really enjoyed using the M9 up to the full 240 seconds. The more the merrier. Does anyone think there is any chance that this will ever change with a firmware update? My feeling is NO. Such a shame... I agree, very disappointing for us low-light/night photographers. I would assume that the limitation here is not a firmware issue but that the sensor itself cannot be powered for more than 60 sec. I could be wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 1, 2013 Share #60 Posted August 1, 2013 I agree, it might well be a hardware limitation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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