Ted Lemon Posted May 8, 2013 Share #21 Posted May 8, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I do find it highly amusing that these kinds of mods are needed on a £5,000 camera. Those Leica guys. It's almost as though they didn't even research where to put it. It just sort of seems like its the closest place to where the underlying electronics are. Someone should create a brass cantilever attachment like on brass instruments. So you could squeeze a small trigger to press the button :-) I agree. The thumbs up on my ME and MM should not have been required either (I can do without but moving from M7 makes this ergonomically hard). But on the other hand it shows the ingenuity and - dare I say - brand loyalty that this forum displays. I can't think of any other high-end camera brand where so many post-sales customer invented add-ons such as these as in evidence ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 Hi Ted Lemon, Take a look here M Rubber Bump. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wlaidlaw Posted May 8, 2013 Share #22 Posted May 8, 2013 Thanks - great suggestion! It would be good to know whether the bump remains in place over time (with the adhesive possibly being degraded by sun/rain/etc). Could the tape used on Steve's excellent M Thumbie grip be an option - with a thin metal disc added onto the tape? Helge No - I tried it. The double sided tape with sponge interleaving is too "squigy" to work. I made a small cylindrical aluminium button to use with Steve's tape but decided that the transparent bumpon was a better solution. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #23 Posted May 8, 2013 Yes, I tried the clear ones as well, in the end preferred the look of the black. Choice is good! It's interesting that with the rubber bump, you can rock the button back and forth. There is quite a lot of lateral play in the button. As for durability, my camera has now gone back to Solms with the bumpin place. it will be interesting to see if it survives the re-lugging process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted May 8, 2013 Share #24 Posted May 8, 2013 To the OP,I haven't used an M yet but have one on order. Just a question: How do you know it wasn't designed like that on purpose to prevent spurious inputs? Either way, I'm not concerned about this at all... Just my two cents. Paul Paul, it was clearly designed with that purpose in mind, but obviously most users aren't happy with the implementation or we wouldnt be looking for a fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted May 8, 2013 Share #25 Posted May 8, 2013 Yes, I tried the clear ones as well, in the end preferred the look of the black. Choice is good! It's interesting that with the rubber bump, you can rock the button back and forth. There is quite a lot of lateral play in the button. As for durability, my camera has now gone back to Solms with the bumpin place. it will be interesting to see if it survives the re-lugging process. Mark, my black bumps arrive today, and I thank you again for this brilliant solution. Did you wind up using an additional adhesive to secure your bump, and if so what works best? Too bad about your strap lugs going loose... the lugs on my M remain snug. I wonder if the engineer who approved the Focus Button design "shortfall" was promoted to oversight of lug installation? Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted May 8, 2013 Share #26 Posted May 8, 2013 I can't think of any other high-end camera brand where so many post-sales customer invented add-ons such as these as in evidence ? Every camera system made has user mods. Photographers are just that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted May 8, 2013 Share #27 Posted May 8, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I posted this some weeks ago. My Bumpon has now been on for about 6 weeks and I would not be without it. As the surface is slightly tacky, your finger immediately picks up a tactile reference for the location of the zoom/focus/EV button. Mine is transparent and from more than a few feet away, it is invisible. I got a strip of 12 for £0.99, the cheapest Leica accessory I have ever bought and one of the most useful here: Self Adhesive Polyurethane Bumper Feet Hemispherical Various Sizes- Pack of 12 | eBay the size you need is 6.4mm x 1.9mm Wilson I knew I'd read somewhere that you'd introduced this solution some time ago Wilson, but I couldn't find your post again. Many thanks, and also to Mark too for 're-tweeting' the black option. Thanks also to Voight for the 'hole-punch' variation (see post no.11). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #28 Posted May 8, 2013 What's strange is that the shroud around this button is intended to avoid pressing the button accidentally, presumably. In fact, the button may be used quite a lot for live view focussing and exposure compensation and there's no particular harm if the button is pressed accidentally so I don't understand why they bothered with the shroud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voigt Posted May 8, 2013 Share #29 Posted May 8, 2013 There are larger, flatter versions of these rubber bumpon that I believe might be useful in covering, and therefore blocking, the M (movie) button on top. That might eliminate the accidental deployment of the movie feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 8, 2013 Share #30 Posted May 8, 2013 There are larger, flatter versions of these rubber bumpon that I believe might be useful in covering, and therefore blocking, the M (movie) button on top. That might eliminate the accidental deployment of the movie feature. I have to say in 2 months of using the M, I have yet to accidentally press the movie button. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGraham Posted May 8, 2013 Share #31 Posted May 8, 2013 I use Shoe Goo adhesive to attach remote flashers on my home theatre equipment. It's a bit messy until it dries but sticks like crazy and doesn't react with plastic or metal. Once you pry it off, the goo just peals off. Google it. I bought mine at Wal-Mart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 8, 2013 Share #32 Posted May 8, 2013 I have to say in two months of using the M, I have yet to accidentally press the movie button. Yeah. Same here ... umm, except I've had mine for only five days now (plus two days of using my dealer's demo model). Pressing the 'Movie' button unintentionally definitely is not one of my problems. In fact, I'm having no problems at all ... except the badly over-saturated colour rendition but that's what profiles are for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted May 8, 2013 Share #33 Posted May 8, 2013 I have to say in 2 months of using the M, I have yet to accidentally press the movie button. Wilson same here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voigt Posted May 8, 2013 Share #34 Posted May 8, 2013 I just suggested it because Michael Reichman and/or Sean Reid mentioned that some photographers were having such a problem with the M button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lemon Posted May 9, 2013 Share #35 Posted May 9, 2013 Every camera system made has user mods. Photographers are just that way. Maybe - but I have yet to see a very new very expensive camera body require a cheap bit of rubber stuck on a button to make it useable (for what seems like a lot of users). But hey whatever people want to do is fine with me. I photographed with a Nikon F3HP (very expensive camera at the time) for years and met many other photographers with the same - never saw one user inspired add-on. And how many user inspired add-ons are there for M6? (awaits potential barrage). I think if that many people on this link (who I respect for their views) need this add-on to make the camera more workable then its a design issue with the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 9, 2013 Share #36 Posted May 9, 2013 Maybe - but I have yet to see a very new very expensive camera body require a cheap bit of rubber stuck on a button to make it useable (for what seems like a lot of users). But hey whatever people want to do is fine with me. I photographed with a Nikon F3HP (very expensive camera at the time) for years and met many other photographers with the same - never saw one user inspired add-on. And how many user inspired add-ons are there for M6? (awaits potential barrage). I think if that many people on this link (who I respect for their views) need this add-on to make the camera more workable then its a design issue with the camera. Lutz Konnermann of Leicagoodies (now taken over by Rik Plomp) made a whole business out of selling add ons and improvements for film Leicas. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voigt Posted May 10, 2013 Share #37 Posted May 10, 2013 M I think if that many people on this link (who I respect for their views) need this add-on to make the camera more workable then its a design issue with the camera. "Design issue?" I think it's more just personal choice. Some prefer a thumbs-up, while others don't. Some like a soft release button, while others don't. Some like a thicker strap… It's all a matter of choice. That is, is it easier to add something to make the camera fit you better, or is it easier to just learn to use the camera the way it is? Obviously there are many who find the camera design a delight to use. What each of us does with it is by choice, not by necessity. Some might just be trying to make an already excellent design even better for themselves. Do you believe a camera is having "design issues" because a dozen people on a camera forum are having minor difficulty adjusting to one of the control buttons? Or that the steps they've taken individually justify labeling it a "design issue?" No camera is perfect, but there's nothing bad here, except maybe the price. For seven grand it should be able to do our laundry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 10, 2013 Share #38 Posted May 10, 2013 Maybe - but I have yet to see a very new very expensive camera body require a cheap bit of rubber stuck on a button to make it useable (for what seems like a lot of users). But hey whatever people want to do is fine with me. I photographed with a Nikon F3HP (very expensive camera at the time) for years and met many other photographers with the same - never saw one user inspired add-on. And how many user inspired add-ons are there for M6? (awaits potential barrage). I think if that many people on this link (who I respect for their views) need this add-on to make the camera more workable then its a design issue with the camera. That tells us more about the relationship between the photographer and his tools than about the camera itself. To me it is no issue. For instance I used a Thumbie on my M9 for a while and thought it was an improvement, at one point it fell of and again it felt like an improvement. As for add-ons for film Leicas - many were proposed, with Leica even incorporating some in their catalog in the past. By the time the M6 appeared the fad had diminished somewhat. This is of course the ultimate development of Mark's bump: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! (From Gizmodo) Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! (From Gizmodo) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203572-m-rubber-bump/?do=findComment&comment=2318205'>More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted May 11, 2013 Share #39 Posted May 11, 2013 Mark, the bumps work very well indeed. I am sure this improvement is exactly what Leica had in mind, but just failed to test with normal fingers. I rather like how my M240 looks now... somehow covering up the silver button makes the body look more classical to me. Oh, sorry about the crooked application, but the bump stuck on there so well that I did not want to disturb it... I only have another 99 back-ups, after all. Most of my shots are crooked anyways. Thanks so much! Peter Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203572-m-rubber-bump/?do=findComment&comment=2319413'>More sharing options...
marknorton Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #40 Posted June 9, 2013 As a follow up, my black rubber bump survived the re-lugging exercise in Solms. They didn't see fit to remove it. Hey, they may even have called up the product development boys to come and have a look at what one customer has done to solve the pesky button problem. I'm my dreams, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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