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Winter reflection, taken on a short walk today

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A shot on the Bluebell Railway, Sussex (October last year).

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Guytou, thanks for your reply to my previous question about how you process your Digilux images. I'm currently trying Lightroom 5, so your comments were helpful. I think the answer with these files is to do the minimum necessary! While I normally shoot raw files in cameras, with the Digilux I'm not really sure if that's always the best option. As others have said (including Thorsten Overgaard), it's hard to improve on the out of camera jpegs. Of my most recent 2 submissions (above), the steam engine was a raw file & the winter landscape a jpeg.

 

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Guytou, thanks for your reply to my previous question about how you process your Digilux images. I'm currently trying Lightroom 5, so your comments were helpful. I think the answer with these files is to do the minimum necessary! While I normally shoot raw files in cameras, with the Digilux I'm not really sure if that's always the best option. As others have said (including Thorsten Overgaard), it's hard to improve on the out of camera jpegs. Of my most recent 2 submissions (above), the steam engine was a raw file & the winter landscape a jpeg.

 

Kind regards,

Geoff

Geoff you will always be able to do more with a Raw file, if you feel so inclined. I have worked with LR since first release and have seen so many improvements over time. I even revisit some of my earlier work and apply new techniques learned with newer LR tools. I guess you have retrieved more detail in your railway engine shot than would have been possible starting with a JPEG, where so much data has already been lost.

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Hello Williamgm,

 

I share the same opinion that above.

It arrived to me obviously of poster of the photographs in JPEG resulting from Digilux 2. These photographs were already very good directly at exit of case because the light was well at the time of release.

I did not have thus to make them undergo a postprocessing and that was appropriate to me perfectly.

But the majority are RAW which one can recover more information.

 

Guy

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Thanks again. I use RAW files all the time in my professional work (using Nikon, Hasselblad & Fuji equipment), either with Camera Raw or Aperture. I also appreciate that Lightroom uses Camera Raw for processing Raw files, but the rest of the program is not one I've spent much time with (mainly as I'm an Aperture user).

 

Reading many of the posts & articles about the Digilux (which I really only regard as my 'fun i.e. non-professional' camera), including the lengthy article Thorsten Overgaard has on his site, opinion on whether to shoot Raw of jpeg seems to be divided. He actually shows some comparison images & concludes that Raw is not worth the trouble (with the Digilux, I emphasise).

 

So, while I shoot 100% Raw with other cameras because of the well-known benefits, with the Digilux it doesn't seem to be quite so clear-cut; they also take a long time to write to the SD card compared to jpeg, of course!

I'll probably continue to shoot both - in fact, it's quite nice to have the camera set to B&W and get both a B&W jpeg and a Raw file that can be processed however you want (I have my Fuji X100S set up this way).

 

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Geoff

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Only a few images with the Digilux 2. Still like it a lot.

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Picture #2 with the ice skaters is my favourite.

I like the foggy look and the captured scene.

 

Well, it was really foggy that day in the arena. They didn't activate the air cleaners due to the few skaters there.

The child is my son, the girls are his instructor and her sister.

In Pontebba, Friuli, Italy.

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I always shoot raw + jpgs with all my cameras, handy to have both files as per Thorsten Overgaard .

Here's a shot opened up in Aperture with no processing, Raw file (5.2mb) + jpeg file (3.7mb) .

Notice the clipped highlights on the windowsill in the jpeg file, a professional photographers nightmare .

There is so much more information in the Raw file and its not much bigger than the jpg .

Just my thoughts .

Cheers

Mike

 

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Well, having read (again) Thorsten Overgaard's long article on the Digilux 2, in my earlier post on jpeg v. raw question I was only repeating what Thorsten had said on page 2. Well down the page is a paragraph that begins 'Life is too short for RAW', which explains why he uses jpeg only with this camera. (He also mentions somewhere else that he sets it to take 3 shots of the subject, which would clearly only be feasible with jpeg owing to the long raw write times).

leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Sites - Leica Digilux 2 sample photos and tests (as well as Panasonic DMC-LC1) - Page 2 - portraits, cleaning Digilux 2 and more samples

 

I can appreciate the advantages of both; while I always feel happier knowing I have a raw file to work with, there are perhaps times when jpeg is fine, particularly if write times are an issue.

 

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Well, having read (again) Thorsten Overgaard's long article on the Digilux 2, in my earlier post on jpeg v. raw question I was only repeating what Thorsten had said on page 2. Well down the page is a paragraph that begins 'Life is too short for RAW', which explains why he uses jpeg only with this camera. (He also mentions somewhere else that he sets it to take 3 shots of the subject, which would clearly only be feasible with jpeg owing to the long raw write times).

leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Sites - Leica Digilux 2 sample photos and tests (as well as Panasonic DMC-LC1) - Page 2 - portraits, cleaning Digilux 2 and more samples

 

I can appreciate the advantages of both; while I always feel happier knowing I have a raw file to work with, there are perhaps times when jpeg is fine, particularly if write times are an issue.

 

Geoff

Geoff, while it is largely academic, I think we should recognize that software has improved immeasurably since Thorsten did his tests. (I doubt he spends much time now reworking old D2 files). Lightroom and ACR produces significantly better results than in the earlier versions of the software. But I accept some leisure photographers don't want the bother of working through Raw processing. For me, it is a straightforward and economical process and is my norm.

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A couple old portfolio edits.

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Do Digilux 2 photos have distinctive look? YES

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Digilux II

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And they tasted good too.....

Iso 100, f2.1, 1/40.

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And these were pretty good too...:)

 

Iso 100, f5.6, 1/250.

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Digilux 2

Revisited my Prague folder, reprocessed to fine grain .

Cheers

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