ACR and Lightroom Release Candidate 4.4 Support for M240

[luigi bertolotti]

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Significant improvement in skintone, I'd say... thanks for the test, Chris.

Imho, considering it's a 3200 ISO, the noise seems to me very well managed, but billo101 seems to have a different opinion (and personally, I have to compare with my M8, not a M9... I would be happy to get such a picture with M8 at 800 )

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[chris_tribble]

Are you saying that these are the colors of the M240?

Management ISO is this?

 

Sounds like a joke ... but it is not.

 

Thanks for sharing, it is very instructive.

 

Billo - I won't pursue this further, but for your information see what the 5D2 did under the same lighting conditions. FIRST is out of camera with WB set to Tungsten. SECOND is with WB adjusted - neither are good in terms of colour. However - we're talking about seriously RED lighting and you're never going to get neutral skin tones as this wasn't the reality of the scene. As it was, IMHO the M-240 handled it better than the Canon (as was the case with the M9).

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[jaapv]

I cannot see any of your posts that have been deleted.

 

 

 

There may be an obscure bug at work; the forum just "ate" one of my posts.

[don daniel]

I completely agree with Chris that the new M does very well here, except the banding issue. As soon as you push shadows a little bit, there is the banding again in the darker parts of the image. RAW-Files from my Nikon D700 are much easier to adjust.

 

There was thread here, in which members tried to adjust colors in a picture taken by Jono (indoor-shot of the woman with the dog). You'll never get good skin tones in artificial yellowish light, even if you convert to black and white, faces just look. Let's not pretend you could get wonderful colors under all light conditions!

[chris_tribble]

OK - destruction example. M-240 and 5D2 - both pushed 5 stops. BOTH show a degree of banding. My argument with 3200 (and 6400) on the M is that if you expose correctly you can get excellent results which will make large prints.

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[jaapv]

I think a small amount of noise reduction in LR, if needed with the brush, would clear it up satisfactory.

I must say this example looks very promising.

[rirakuma]

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Thanks for the samples Chris , would really love to see more pics from the M under lighting conditions similar to the one with your son and grandson (if possible). I agree its very hard to get natural skin tones with harsh lighting conditions, I've had nightmares trying to correct WB of shots from a local gig.

[billo101]

I'm glad I bought the Monochrom, now even more after seeing these images

[jaapv]

I can create the same banding - even tartan banding, on the Monochrom, and the colour rendering is a lot worse...

[chris_tribble]

Thanks for the samples Chris , would really love to see more pics from the M under lighting conditions similar to the one with your son and grandson (if possible). I agree its very hard to get natural skin tones with harsh lighting conditions, I've had nightmares trying to correct WB of shots from a local gig.

 

Hi - I have very few shots in good light I'm afraid - the commission was to test in bad light - and this I did!. However, here's a grab shot with the 135 Apo-Telyt (focusing with the EVF). The original was a stop or so overexposed. I think it tells a good story on skin tones.

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[pelagia]

Chris, sorry for splitting hairs, but your two corrected images (second one in both sets) appear different. I mean the singing lady.

[chris_tribble]

Chris, sorry for splitting hairs, but your two corrected images (second one in both sets) appear different. I mean the singing lady.

 

Toomas - you're right. The first time I posted I had forgotten I was using the "colour corrected" version which I'd provided to the client. I had done work in Hue (Red + 32 / Orange +2) along with White Balance correction in an attempt to improve the skin tones and overcome the red-bias in the Embedded LR Profile.. The second time I posted I had removed the Hue adjustment.

 

WELL SPOTTED!

 

I apologise for any confusion...

[algrove]

I like what's being done here, but I do think it is a shame to compare a new Leica versus an old Canon. Any chance for a 5D3 comparison since it is the last iteration.

[BrunoStevens]

With zeroed colour settings the contrast between Embedded and Adobe Standard is VERY noticeable. A striking contrast. NB - obviously we're talking about skin tones under very complex mixed lighting.

 

Hello all,

 

I downloaded the LR 4.4 update yesterday and I am delighted with the results. As Chris says the improvement is very noticeable! I had a (stupid test) frame shot at a snowy market of red, green, orange peppers and tomatoes in blue plastic and cardboard boxes: with the embedded profile orange and reds were very badly saturated to the point that the picture was almost un-correctable but it came out simply perfect with the new Adobe™ profile and no further adjustment. I will try to post the frame as soon as I have time to do so. (and found out how this forum upload system works)

[splinter]

Thanks for posting this, thankfully it seems to have greatly solved the issue. be great to get confirmation with a few more shots, but even with this sample it looks as if the issue has been fixed. (Which is going to make my bank account hurt, but my heart happy!).