AlanJW Posted February 25, 2013 Share #1 Posted February 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) All DNGs that have been reviewed so far have not had the benefit of a proper profile from Adobe for use in ACR (or from any other raw developer for that matter). But wouldn't a profile created with a Colorchecker Passport tell us more? And avoid having to wait for Adobe to get its act together? Is this forbidden by the NDA? If not perhaps someone could give it a try. Am I missing something here? Sounds too easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Hi AlanJW, Take a look here ACR and Lightroom Release Candidate 4.4 Support for M240. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest WPalank Posted February 26, 2013 Share #2 Posted February 26, 2013 All DNGs that have been reviewed so far have not had the benefit of a proper profile from Adobe for use in ACR (or from any other raw developer for that matter). But wouldn't a profile created with a Colorchecker Passport tell us more? And avoid having to wait for Adobe to get its act together? Is this forbidden by the NDA? If not perhaps someone could give it a try. Am I missing something here? Sounds too easy. Patience is a virtue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted February 26, 2013 Share #3 Posted February 26, 2013 Patience is a virtue. Just released in the wink of an eye. Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 7.4 Beta | digital camera raw file support - Adobe Labs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted February 26, 2013 Share #4 Posted February 26, 2013 Lightroom Release Candidate 4.4: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.4 Release Candidate | photo management software prerelease - Adobe Labs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted February 26, 2013 Share #5 Posted February 26, 2013 Can one of the mods please explain why one of my posts was deleted? I see one lurking and suspect it is he. Or did it just vanish in to thin air. I do not see a PM the mods button BTW and there are several. I guess it is Stu who is the only one that sends a PM to explain why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 26, 2013 Share #6 Posted February 26, 2013 In looking at the samples that have been made available, I can't see any real improvement other than the lens profile correction. However the color rendition appears to be about the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted February 26, 2013 Share #7 Posted February 26, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maybe Leica is still tinkering colors for their final firmware and the profile in LR 4.4 is the same as the one hard coded in the images from earlier firmwares? Just thinking out loud. In looking at the samples that have been made available, I can't see any real improvement other than the lens profile correction. However the color rendition appears to be about the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 26, 2013 Share #8 Posted February 26, 2013 Can one of the mods please explain why one of my posts was deleted? I see one lurking and suspect it is he. Or did it just vanish in to thin air.I do not see a PM the mods button BTW and there are several. I guess it is Stu who is the only one that sends a PM to explain why. I cannot see any of your posts that have been deleted. You can PM ALL the Mods and Admin simultaneously by using the warning triangle button, to the left of every post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted February 26, 2013 Share #9 Posted February 26, 2013 In looking at the samples that have been made available, I can't see any real improvement other than the lens profile correction. However the color rendition appears to be about the same. I can see clear differences in the blues and reds. Most noticeable in the color of the ears of the jazz musician in Chris' image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 26, 2013 Share #10 Posted February 26, 2013 It's subtle, but a definite improvement. I'm very encouraged and SO looking forward to getting my own production version. The examples below might show it. SET 1 FIRST is the Embedded profile, SECOND is the new Adobe Standard profile corrected for the M-240 (son and grandson, so just a family snap)... SET 2 - same sequence. This time a shot from a new production of L'Elisir d'Amore at the King's Head Theatre in London. I've also posted a DNG on my Dropbox if anyone one wants to play with this. NOTE this image is ISO 3200 - no complaints from where I stand. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/862415/L1002062.dng Have fun... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/199135-acr-and-lightroom-release-candidate-44-support-for-m240/?do=findComment&comment=2253720'>More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 26, 2013 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2013 I can see clear differences in the blues and reds. Most noticeable in the color of the ears of the jazz musician in Chris' image. Agreed - it's MUCH better controlled. The light in the Jazz image is still a pig (but it would have been for anything). Also, I'm not sure if it's wishful thinking, but the banding issue looks much less noticeable in this issue with the corrected profile. Interesting and encouraging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 26, 2013 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2013 Could you post a set where you equalled out the saturation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2013 I do not like this color rendering, very Japanese I think is the effect of the CMOS. Thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted February 26, 2013 Share #14 Posted February 26, 2013 But wouldn't a profile created with a Colorchecker Passport tell us more? . I've been wondering about this too. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 26, 2013 Share #15 Posted February 26, 2013 I do not like this color rendering, very Japanese I think is the effect of the CMOS.Thanks for sharing. Hmmm - when I compare M9 with these, I'm really unclear about what you're seeing... Also, evaluating CMOS vs CCD on the strength of these small JPEGs is probably not the best methodology... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 26, 2013 Share #16 Posted February 26, 2013 Could you post a set where you equalled out the saturation? Jaap - could you explain? I've not touched saturation in either of these... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 26, 2013 Share #17 Posted February 26, 2013 I'm sure you did not, Chris, but it appears to me that the new profile produces a less saturated colour overall. And a different black point. Please correct me if I am wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 26, 2013 Share #18 Posted February 26, 2013 Jaap - you're absolutely right - I'd forgotten I'd adjusted the colour settings to try to render the image acceptably. My apologies. With zeroed colour settings the contrast between Embedded and Adobe Standard is VERY noticeable. The ones posted here are the original image (with the best WB I could get given the lighting). FIRST is with the Embedded profile. SECOND is with the new profile. A striking contrast. NB - obviously we're talking about skin tones under very complex mixed lighting. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/199135-acr-and-lightroom-release-candidate-44-support-for-m240/?do=findComment&comment=2253822'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 26, 2013 Share #19 Posted February 26, 2013 Now THAT'S an improvement.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share #20 Posted February 26, 2013 Are you saying that these are the colors of the M240? Management ISO is this? Sounds like a joke ... but it is not. Thanks for sharing, it is very instructive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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