bwibowo Posted November 11, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted November 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) i never see leica shooter using flash during photo session, how about you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Erik Gunst Lund Posted November 11, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted November 11, 2012 You can find several if you look on Youtube using Leica M in the studio etc.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyedeebee Posted November 11, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted November 11, 2012 I occasionally use a Metz 32mz3 with my M8, but to be honest it's so big that I rarely take it out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted November 12, 2012 Share #4  Posted November 12, 2012 what a about this one here: Bruce Gilden   you can do a lot with flash. even better if you have a remote trigger so you are free from cables only issue with digital Ms (before next M) is that there is no pc sync and hot shoe may be used for viewfinder G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwibowo Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share #5  Posted November 12, 2012 i mean for in door/ our door use  You can find several if you look on Youtube using Leica M in the studio etc.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted November 13, 2012 Share #6 Â Posted November 13, 2012 I seldom use flash on the M8, since it is possible to PP the images; lift the shadows enough and at the same time keep the blacks black. I have too shoot in RAW to be able to do so of course... Â This goes for M8 indoor and outdoor shooting. Â If it's a paid event or PJ style shooting with low light where I need to produce clear images of the guests i use fill flash but then I mostly would choose to shoot with my Nikon D3 to be fast enough to capture the moment with AF and high ISO also. Â It takes skills to make good flash images IMHO.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted November 13, 2012 Share #7  Posted November 13, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Although I'm using the M9, I had similar thoughts that I don't need to use flash until recently when I find that I cannot see the faces of my subjects in difficult light.  I bought myself the Leica SF24D, The flash unit together with my Nissin SC01 universal cord is always in my camera bag ready to shoot.  Check out my recent work using the flash - in People section of this forum - Vendors ladies on bicycle in Hanoi. Taken early in the morning and it will be almost impossible To shoot these subjects without the flash  http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/people/262060-vendor-ladies-bicycles-hanoi-vietnam.html#post2234455 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted November 19, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted November 19, 2012 It takes skills to make good flash images IMHO.... Â I agree. It is easy to take flash images, but requires a new skill set to make good ones. By good I mean images that appear to have been taken in good light rather than bad light with flash. Â There are times when flash is just required. I do a lot of family snapshots of events on our large covered back porch. During the daytime and without flash I must expose for the subjects and let the background (lit by direct sun) blowout. This results in a very unattractive image. Alternatively I can use bounced flash and balance the exposure of the subject with that of the background creating an attractive image where it is not obvious flash was used. This is true whether I shoot with my M9 or D4. Fast glass and/or high ISO do not help. The dynamic range of the image exceeds what can be captured without the use of flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve66 Posted November 19, 2012 Share #9  Posted November 19, 2012 A friend has asked me to shoot a family event, I reckon I will need a flash unit for certain shots  So I would welcome any recommendations on flash units to partner my M8.  Will not be able to afford a Leica unit so used or reasonable compatible brands would help me.  Thanks in advance,  Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted November 19, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted November 19, 2012 Will not be able to afford a Leica unit so used or reasonable compatible brands would help me. Â Only the Leica badged flashes (SF-24D & SF-58) seem to do TTL metering. But several other brands (Nikon and Metz to name two) have models that will work in Auto Mode (where the flash itself controls the exposure). I used both the Nikon SB-25 and SB-800 with good results before I got the SF-58. I believe either a Nikon or Leica dedicated Metz will be fine as well. If you are OK with pure manual flash almost any flash that fits the hotshoe will work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 19, 2012 Share #11 Â Posted November 19, 2012 My favorite is a shutter slow enough to pick up some ambient light and underexpose the flash some. This makes stunning pics with little effort in low light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve66 Posted November 19, 2012 Share #12 Â Posted November 19, 2012 My favorite is a shutter slow enough to pick up some ambient light and underexpose the flash some. This makes stunning pics with little effort in low light. Â Â ? could you post a couple of examples, Tobey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reds Posted November 20, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted November 20, 2012 I use Nikon SB-800s or SB-910s at events a lot for bounce flash on camera. They work absolutely fine. Also use off cam with an SC-28 cord sometimes. No need to splash on a Leica one unless you really want ttl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 20, 2012 Share #14  Posted November 20, 2012 Check out my recent work using the flash - in People section of this forum - Vendors ladies on bicycle in Hanoi. Taken early in the morning and it will be almost impossible To shoot these subjects without the flash http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/people/262060-vendor-ladies-bicycles-hanoi-vietnam.html#post2234455  Every image is under-exposed.  I suspect that you had the flash set wrong. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted November 20, 2012 Share #15  Posted November 20, 2012 Thank you Pico.  But I like these photos how it turn out there.  These were my first try at using the flash at dawn. Still learning - any similar image that you can recommend that I look at as an example ?   Every image is under-exposed. I suspect that you had the flash set wrong. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted November 20, 2012 Share #16 Â Posted November 20, 2012 Not long ago, I photographed an indoor event with a Metz 45CL-4 flash mounted to my MP which was loaded with Tri-X. Â I bounced the flash off the ceiling and the exposures were perfect except for two frames which were my fault (flash was not 100% recycled in one, flash head was aimed wrong due to switching between portrait and landscape framing in the other) . Â It was the first time I had used flash with my MP and I was quite pleased with the results. Â It's pretty simple stuff - just follow the instructions in the flash user's manual, plug the sync cord into the port on the camera and use the 1/50 shutter speed sync on the camera. Â I would much rather shoot with exsisting light but sometimes the illumination is so poor that it's just not doable. In those situations, bounce flash illuminated images beats the crap out of no images at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 20, 2012 Share #17  Posted November 20, 2012 Mine are family party photos and I am not allowed to post them at parents request.  Dragging the Shutter  The technique is called dragging the shutter.  Dragging The Camera Shutter at the Wedding: WedPix Wedding Photography Article  There is no reason to keep the flash on camera either  Might add two points. I can use ceiling bounce flash that keeps white balance more towards daylight, the in interior lamps get a nice warm glow so you can see they are on, but they contribute little otherwise.  Flash can be filtered to match ambient with a warming filter so it more closely matches existing WB.  Do it all correctly and you can not tell they are flash pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleeman Posted January 1, 2013 Share #18 Â Posted January 1, 2013 I use the large Leica flash with a Quantum battery on my M8.2 and the cord connector to power the flash tries to jab me in the eye. Â I also use my Alien Bees with a wireless trigger with the same camera. Nicer results with umbrellas than direct or bounce flash. More work too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bideford Posted January 1, 2013 Share #19 Â Posted January 1, 2013 I use the cheap Yongnuo wireless kit (Nikon transmitter) and my Canon flash units with my M8.2 for off camera flash. Great fun but requires manual control of the flash unit. It does however mean that you have to understand manual flash photography in much the same way that a rangefinder requires you to understand how to focus manually. Â James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_panko Posted January 5, 2013 Share #20 Â Posted January 5, 2013 I agree with the comments so far and as a general rule I prefer natural light and no flash but for those times when I need to add shadows, I use two simple manual flash units. One is placed high and to one side of the camera with a slave trigger. The second is placed on the camera and wrapped in two layers of waxed paper to reduce the light output by one f stop. The main flash alone will create harsh shadows which can be softened with the fill flash. The camera doesn't need TTL linkages as a simple guide number and the distance to the main flash works well enough. Â The set up may sound awkward and an assistant to hold the main flash unit may be necessary. When I have more time for a portrait sitting two umbrellas on stands with the same flash units facing inward produces a softer light and even nicer shadows. Â Flash units are all about creating shadows and catch lights in the eyes, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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