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Thanks for your explanation (and to nomad64 too).

You're welcome :)

 

The new M with live view will solve this problem. Analog technic vanishes (slowly).

Depending on whether you can control the exposition from live view or not. Analogic vanishes but will not disappear. I'd bet 1€c that digital cameras as we know them today will disappear in the future to be replaced by something else whilst film cameras will be still there however in little numbers.

Digital technic is cheaper to build and delivers better results.

Jan

Cheaper for sure. As for better results that remains to be seen, literally ;)

 

Cheers,

Bruno

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Accurate (!) metering with a 21 is always an art anyway, even with my 21/2.8 asph on my M6ttl I prefer to meter with the 35 etc before putting the 21 on.

 

Gerry

With landscapes, certainly metering is tricky. I learned to point the camera more towards the ground or use a hand exposure meter. Indoors, exposure is less of a problem with a 21 f/2.8 Aspheric lens.

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Analogic vanishes but will not disappear. I'd bet 1€c that digital cameras as we know them today will disappear in the future to be replaced by something else whilst film cameras will be still there however in little numbers.

Cheers,

Bruno

I hadn't the intention to disturb the harmony in this thread. A little bit of advertising for the new M should be welcome, I thought.

 

Windmills - almost forgotten - are high in course again. But they mill electrons now, no water. Even if they are installed in the North Sea!

 

But the technicians can help us. As the camera can read what lens we are using (6-bit code) and the exact lighting can be taken from the live view, it should be possible to program a M9 and a M8 metering mode with the corresponding mismetering for the Super Angulon. This metering can be overruled then by over- or underexposing. No loss of user knowhow.

Jan

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... As the camera can read what lens we are using (6-bit code) and the exact lighting can be taken from the live view, it should be possible to program a M9 and a M8 metering mode with the corresponding mismetering for the Super Angulon. ...

 

Which live view? Neither the M8 nor the M9 do that. You could take a rather underexposed shot first and base the exposure for your definite shot on values taken from the histogram. That ought to work but is a little less than spontaneous shooting.

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I hadn't the intention to disturb the harmony in this thread. A little bit of advertising for the new M should be welcome, I thought.

 

Jan, you've nothing to apologize for. We're just talking and exchanging opinions as polite persons are supposed to do.

 

But the technicians can help us. As the camera can read what lens we are using (6-bit code) and the exact lighting can be taken from the live view, it should be possible to program a M9 and a M8 metering mode with the corresponding mismetering for the Super Angulon. This metering can be overruled then by over- or underexposing. No loss of user knowhow.

Jan

 

Whilst theoretically possible, the flaw is in the fact that the SA cannot be 6-bit coded and I have serious doubts that at Leitz they would take the time and the pain to do all what you suggest for a lens that old and produced in less than 6,000 exemplars.

Besides, Jean-Marc has already found his empirical solution, namely metering and underexposing and otherwise there are always handheld lightmeters that would get rid of any ambiguity.

 

Cheers,

Bruno

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Jan, you've nothing to apologize for. We're just talking and exchanging opinions as polite persons are supposed to do.

+1 !

 

Besides, Jean-Marc has already found his empirical solution, namely metering and underexposing and otherwise there are always handheld lightmeters that would get rid of any ambiguity.

 

I actually first found that trick/solution in a SA thread on internet, just cannot recall the original link.

Cheers,

Jean-Marc

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