pop Posted October 20, 2012 Share #21 Posted October 20, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) CLs often come with a Summicron-C 40mm/1:2 and an Elmar-C 90mm/1:4 and might even lie within the price range you gave earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andym911 Posted October 20, 2012 Share #22 Posted October 20, 2012 No objections... Get a CL, make sure all works well and enjoy a Leica how they should be... Compact, intuitive and fun :-)) BTW there is a great repair shop in germany for CL if it needs a CLA. Good luck Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted October 21, 2012 Share #23 Posted October 21, 2012 Of course, everyone here loves Leica and for good reason but if the budget is tight a Bessa L would be fine to start with. At 15mm you do not need rangefinder coupling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 22, 2012 Share #24 Posted October 22, 2012 To start with a 15mm is tough. On film the very wide angles show a lot of grain in the details and they are difficult to find right exposures for starters. If you work with an incident light meter it would help a lot I do not understand how you get more grain with any lens, but then I do not understand many things. The 15mm Voigtlander works very, very well in the CL. It is exactly why I bought my most recent CL. Compact, easy to load even with gloves, and the back stays with the strap so you can't drop it. The only reason I'm selling it is because I am divesting myself of a lot of gear. OP: Welcome and best of luck to you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted October 22, 2012 Share #25 Posted October 22, 2012 Proportional to the mostly relatively small objects shown in the image of a wide-angle lens, the grain is relatively big. This would not show so much on slide film, but on Tri-X it does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 22, 2012 Share #26 Posted October 22, 2012 Proportional to the mostly relatively small objects shown in the image of a wide-angle lens, the grain is relatively big. This would not show so much on slide film, but on Tri-X it does If you say so, then it is worth a gentleman's bet. Perhaps we should take this to the Film forum. Oh, a Guinness says that grain is not effected by focal length. A bet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted October 23, 2012 Share #27 Posted October 23, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Of course is the size of grain not affected by angle, grain is grain. I said something different, maybe not clear enough English, but you understand what I mean you naughty boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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