colonel Posted October 4, 2012 Share #1 Posted October 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Same cost Just want them to run my M lenses on for occasional film fun M6 is probably better built but I hear the Ikon is also well built, and obviously would come with a guarantee. Would be interested in views ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest MarcRF Posted October 4, 2012 Share #2 Posted October 4, 2012 mmh.. the zeiss is more comparable to the M7 so its the mechanical vs auto exposure but battery discussion here... do you want AE? Zeiss Ikon (although I would say M7...)... want purely mechanical? M6 I think warranty is not a topic since those bodies are built to last... if you get a good condition used body it wont need repair for some time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 4, 2012 Share #3 Posted October 4, 2012 I've never used the Zeiss but you can't go wrong with the Leica. Buy from a dealer with warranty, if that's an issue. The Leica won't lose value, a new Zeiss will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted October 4, 2012 mmh.. the zeiss is more comparable to the M7 so its the mechanical vs auto exposure but battery discussion here... do you want AE? Zeiss Ikon (although I would say M7...)... want purely mechanical? M6 I think warranty is not a topic since those bodies are built to last... if you get a good condition used body it wont need repair for some time Good point. Although the M6s on ebay are around 20% cheaper then from a dealer. I suppose you get what you pay for, but it then does make the Ikon cheaper I've never used the Zeiss but you can't go wrong with the Leica. Buy from a dealer with warranty, if that's an issue. The Leica won't lose value, a new Zeiss will. AE would be useful but not essential. Definitely a plus point for the Ikon I did just read an article saying that the AE implementation on the Ikon is not as good as an M7, but I guess it wouldn't be Good point. The M6 wil probably not loose any value at all over a year The price I have been quoted for an Ikon from Germany is however £200 cheaper then from the UK, so there is some depreciation free Around £800 for either rgds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted October 4, 2012 Share #5 Posted October 4, 2012 If u don't mind going without a ttl meter buy an m4. Modern and built to last. I suggest it because once you introduce electronics there is one more thing than can go wrong with a used camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted October 4, 2012 Share #6 Posted October 4, 2012 I've used one and I like the viewfinder. It's a long base rangefinder which makes viewing/focusing easy. It's well built but does lack the 'feel' (weight/heft) of the M. If the feel is most important to you, then the M would be better, imho. The Cosina Bessa would be a cheaper version if you aren't going to be using film very often. But it does feel 'cheap' and I'm not sure about reliability overall. Although I think the Zeiss Ikon is also made by Cosina and uses the same shutter mechanism. Here's an in-depth user review which you might have already seen (?): setup It also compares it with the M and the Cosina Voigtlander Bessa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 4, 2012 Share #7 Posted October 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) £800 will get you a warrantied M6 http://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=34_35&products_id=4900 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted October 7, 2012 Share #8 Posted October 7, 2012 I have owned them both. Both great film cameras. Somehow I impulsively will side with the M6. But you will not go wrong with either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted October 8, 2012 Share #9 Posted October 8, 2012 I did just read an article saying that the AE implementation on the Ikon is not as good as an M7, but I guess it wouldn't be Why...? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted October 12, 2012 Share #10 Posted October 12, 2012 I'd go with a nice used M6 classic. If you shop hard, you should be able to find one in the $1000-1500USD range. JMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. James Wolf Posted October 18, 2012 Share #11 Posted October 18, 2012 If you wear glasses, the meter readout on the M6 is much more visible than on the ZI. The Zeiss viewfinder is wonderful - bright and clear - and each frame is identified in the finder. It also gives room around the 28 frame, which the M6 does not. But the meter/shutter speed readout is hard to see at times, especially in bright light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share #12 Posted October 24, 2012 thanks all for your advice As it happens my M9 went to Solms to have the leather replaced. When it arrived back the Leica shop in London discovered there were some marks on the sensor, either very hard to clean oil stains (they tried) or scratches, so its gone back to Solms. Althougn I have a Nex-5N, which is a great camera, I can't be without my Leica FF fix for long so have pushed the button on a M6. Its being delivered today (at least according to DHL) and frankly I am very excited. I also have a batch of Ilford Delta coming as well. I bought it from a German dealer via ebay who has, until now, provided great service - and tells me there is a 12 month guarantee from him (toms-camera-laden / Thomas Merkt). In terms of developing film in the UK it seems that peak-imaging and ilfordlab are good including scanning (I tried boots before but the scan was bad quality). I will continue to search on this forum and others, but anyone who can suggest a reasonable but good quality mail-order film processor in the UK would be welcome thanks again Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/189403-new-zeiss-ikon-or-2nd-hand-m6/?do=findComment&comment=2149294'>More sharing options...
GeebeeWien Posted October 24, 2012 Share #13 Posted October 24, 2012 Enjoy your M6! A lovely camera. If you intend to shoot primarily classic b&w emulsions, I would highly recommend to consider self developing. It makes for a very good meditative task and is for b&w films quite easy and trouble free. Standard processes take usually around 15-20 minutes per round, so not very time consuming as well. And believe me, the kick when you pull the negs out of the developing tank adds just another dimension to photography. (The only downturn is that scanning is time consuming) Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted November 10, 2012 Share #14 Posted November 10, 2012 You snagged a really nice M6 - congratulations! It. Is always like Christmas time when waiting for the delivery of a new M camera or lens. A well caught mint condition classic piece of kit is a delicious treat to savor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted November 10, 2012 Share #15 Posted November 10, 2012 That looks gorgeous. I think you made the right decision. There should be less depreciation with the Leica. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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