pop Posted September 17, 2012 Share #21 Posted September 17, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) i've noticed on the new Leica M, that the EVF which attaches to the hotshoe can actually review photos as well after taking them...pretty interesting. So does the Digilux 2 and 3 and every bridge camera I've owned so far. If the display on back of the camera can review an image, so can the EVF. It's just a display with an ocular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iedei Posted September 17, 2012 Share #22 Posted September 17, 2012 So does the Digilux 2 and 3 and every bridge camera I've owned so far. If the display on back of the camera can review an image, so can the EVF. It's just a display with an ocular. interesting....so is there any way to transmit more information through the EVF? like the settings controls? OR is it possible to try to tether through the hot shoe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 17, 2012 Share #23 Posted September 17, 2012 I obviously can not say this for the M and its VF. In the Digilux 2 you just switc the display with a toggle from the back of the camera to the one behind the eye piece. Both show exactly the same information. I don't think it would be difficult to "tether" an external EVF. It would take a cable with the proper sockets and the proper number of leads. I don't know if anyone makes such a thing, but it should not be difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted September 18, 2012 Share #24 Posted September 18, 2012 I obviously can not say this for the M and its VF. In the Digilux 2 you just switc the display with a toggle from the back of the camera to the one behind the eye piece. Both show exactly the same information. I don't think it would be difficult to "tether" an external EVF. It would take a cable with the proper sockets and the proper number of leads. I don't know if anyone makes such a thing, but it should not be difficult. i think we should brainstorm about this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 18, 2012 Share #25 Posted September 18, 2012 off the wall question....but does our hotshoe carry significant electronics? enough to develop some sort of device which attaches to it? If you are referring to the standard hot shoe as on the M8 or M9 the answer is no. The M has another port below the hot shoe that connects to the EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelly Posted September 20, 2012 Share #26 Posted September 20, 2012 i think we should brainstorm about this! Hate to put a damper on this, but . . . . Neither the hot-shoe nor the USB connection have the ability to provide LV data.. The firmware in the camera is fairly primitive and concerned with straightforward data; IMHO the data volumes implied to make Live View/EVF a realistic option don't lend themselves to USB, except for studio work. I also have a Fuji X100, which offers EVF, but rarely use it, preferring my unaided eyes to make important decisions. Don't forget the legacy and philosophy of the M series. The rangefinder is still the most accurate framing and focussing method, but it takes time to become comfortable enough for it to become second nature. When I took care of my first Leica (about 25 years ago) it took me a long time to get pin-sharp focus where I wanted, and for a couple of years I used range focussing and hyper-focal techniques to ensure that what I wanted stood a reasonable chance of being in focus. Whatever the latest camera technologies may offer today, don't forget that yesterday your camera was perfect for your needs, and will still continue to take excellent images despite technological advances and new features as yet to be dreamed of. I still use 35mm film for both B&W prints and transparencies, because these mediums have characteristics that (as far as what I am looking for) digital still cannot emulate (although the M8 comes very close). Sorry to ramble on, but at my age sleeping is difficult and a complete waste of my remaining time. Best regards, and please enjoy the journey Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 20, 2012 Share #27 Posted September 20, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not enough of a market to be profitable. No documentation from Leica concerning the USB interface. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kully Posted September 20, 2012 Share #28 Posted September 20, 2012 There is some horrific misunderstanding going on here e.g. connecting to the hotshoe!? To get this to work, the existing USB driver for {Windows,OSX} needs to be reverse engineered to figure out how it pokes the camera. Then a new driver for Android (forgetting IOS for now, it would not work unless it was rooted and I havn't worked on it since 2009) is written and plugged in to an App. The first important question is whether the existing {Win,OSX} applications change settings for the remote capture only or whether those changes persist for shooting once the camera is disconnected. The second important question is.... who does this effect? Has anyone had an LCD screen die so badly they could not make these changes or is this coming from (spare time + internet access). This is not impossible or super difficult and it is a good idea for when the problem begins to manifest in real life not in the nightmares of owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 20, 2012 Share #29 Posted September 20, 2012 ...The first important question is whether the existing {Win,OSX} applications change settings for the remote capture only or whether those changes persist for shooting once the camera is disconnected... Changes persist after disconnection (OSX 10.4). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 20, 2012 Share #30 Posted September 20, 2012 It fits to the hotshoe, but there's a unique interface which it also plugs into on the back of the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 20, 2012 Share #31 Posted September 20, 2012 I must be missing something here. Can the M8 be connected through the hotshoe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 20, 2012 Share #32 Posted September 20, 2012 I must be missing something here. Can the M8 be connected through the hotshoe? Only for a flashgun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kully Posted September 20, 2012 Share #33 Posted September 20, 2012 Mmmm... this is very possible. Just been sniffing the windows driver during my dinnertime and a problem I see is not knowing how (or if it is possible) to change the Menu items (the Set ones are OK). Can't see anything in the DLL exports to do that either. Time to order up a crap Android phone on eBay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 20, 2012 Share #34 Posted September 20, 2012 Only for a flashgun. Yes that's what i suspected as well so why discussing about the hotshoe here? Never used it for tethering so far hence my question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 20, 2012 Share #35 Posted September 20, 2012 I think the idea is to use a hotshoe mounted EVF like the one for the M, but connected via the USB port. One could then view the settings/information through the EVF (assuming a broken LCD) ? I can't see this working though. Who makes an EVF that can connect via USB? Will the USB on the Leica display all the information if connected to an EVF (assuming someone made one with a USB connector) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kully Posted September 20, 2012 Share #36 Posted September 20, 2012 Forget the EVF idea it won't work - I think someone in the thread got mixed up with the new M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 20, 2012 Share #37 Posted September 20, 2012 Yes we're discussing about the M8 here, not the new "M". So let's forget about the hotshoe. As clear as i understand it, the question is to know if we could use an iphone, an ipad or another small portable device instead of a laptop for tethering with the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 23, 2012 Share #38 Posted September 23, 2012 50 views and not one reply? You wonder why people don't bother with this forum. Eh?! You only wait 2 and a half hours while most people on this side of the world are at work and then get grumpy? Jeez, Louise. Perhaps the 50 viewers couldn't answer your question. The many hundreds of thousands of posts on this forum would suggest that people do bother with this forum. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 23, 2012 Share #39 Posted September 23, 2012 what farnz says... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobeyone Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share #40 Posted September 24, 2012 Eh?! You only wait 2 and a half hours while most people on this side of the world are at work and then get grumpy? Jeez, Louise. Perhaps the 50 viewers couldn't answer your question. The many hundreds of thousands of posts on this forum would suggest that people do bother with this forum. Pete. Ill put my quote into context. Thousands of posts on the LCD issue most of which were of the same. This was a post for trying to make a bad situation good and looking for alternative possibilities. The post was made and yes jeez Louise I think if 50 people have viewed it, might be worth a reply or feedback as 50 people at that time bothered to take a look. But as usual, typical.. Maybe the M8 forum needs to be parked as we cannot allow any negativity towards the brand or the new products hey? And yes I do own an M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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