Megapixel Headache and Design Ideas for Next M9

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Leica lenses have not lost their edge - although some designs are rather old and optically not up to snuff with other manufacterers lenses, the new ones (all since 1990 and a couple more) are unmatched.

 

 

Leica lenses are excellent but they do have their match, Zeiss, canon and Nikon. You might disagree and some will but I have Leica, Zeiss, Canon L and some Nikkors and my personal taste overall is the Zeiss and Canon L. Each have their own qualities but Leica is no better in my opinion than a number of other makers.

[lct]

Not my opinion as far as my Leica and Nikon lenses are concerned.

My Nikkor primes (28/2.8, 45/2.8, 50/1.4, 50/1.8, 135/2.0, 180/2.8, 300/4.0) are good and sometimes excellent for the price but at the exception of the 180/2.8 and to a lesser extent the 45/2.8, none of them shows the IQ of Leica glass.

[farnz]

... I don't see the M8 as much more then an expensive point and shoot with minimal features.

Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

[jaapv]

I think next Leica M9 must be a digital and analog camera together. It must take pictures with ccd or film or together with customer selection.

To use screw lenses with m mount lenses is a genius idea. Next step must give to the customer space for to select film or ccd in single camera.

 

I believe M8 leica is the biggest disaster of all leica history.

I saw M7 and M8 comparing pictures and film is rembrandt and ccd is elementary school child. I schocked with the results.

Films reached their peak point - I am talking about Kodak not Fuji - and Leica must use it.

If they will sell us 10 megapixel camera for less than 10 grand , i would buy a point and shoot Kodak and be happy.

 

First lenses losed their edge , now the bodies are to losing their edge. And even the simplest Leica is extremelly expensive.They did not learn to make a film camera cheap. It is a disaster also.Even simplest binocular is 20 times expensive than the nikon. Its better but money is money.

May be if Leica start to produce point and shoot cameras with the price tag of 30 dollars , they sell 10000 times more camera.

If you are making our cameras worse , make them cheap also.

 

Best

 

 

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Sorry, mate I changed from film M6 to M8 - because the M8 outperforms my M6 and film not just by a small margin - no by a magnitude. So you get into your horse and buggy - I'll take my hybrid Lexus... (not that I own a Lexus;))

[Lucklik]

I would like to have anti reduction like Pentax and Sony(=Minolta)

and a anti dust system like Olympus, Pentax, (Sony?) Canon

This can be done in a M camera

 

rgs

 

Luc

[jaapv]

What do you mean by "anti reduction" ?

[Lucklik]

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What do you mean by "anti reduction" ?

Jaap you are right it should be "anti vibration" or "Image stabilisation"

[zapp]

Leica lenses are excellent but they do have their match, Zeiss, canon and Nikon. You might disagree and some will but I have Leica, Zeiss, Canon L and some Nikkors and my personal taste overall is the Zeiss and Canon L. Each have their own qualities but Leica is no better in my opinion than a number of other makers.

Well, I partly agree with you, but remember that I stated all lenses by Leica since 1990. Leica has no current design to put against the Canon 35L, Canon and Zeiss 85 mm lenses, etc. as well as no recent 24, 25, 35 equivalent. I am still waiting to see all new Zeiss lenses. Specs look very interesting.

[jaapv]

Summicron 90/2.0 apo? Elmarit 24/2.8 asph? Summilux 35/1.4 asph? Summicron 35/2.0 asph? All fairly recent I should think, all unmatched in quality as well. This IS a Leica M thread, and there are no Nikkors or Canon L's that will fit the M mount...

[frc]

Although started about the M9 this thread seems to turn into a lensmatter.

No clue abuot the technical aspects, I'm a photographer not a tech.

Owning a number of highly vallued Nikon lenses as well as some of the recent Leica glass I must say that in therms of sharpness I see no difference between the two but the drawing ( yes very subjective ) makes me appreciate the Leica gear a lott more than the Jap ( not Jaap ) designs.

As for the M9, handcockable silent shutter, 1/8000th sec on film, and if digital ISO right at hand.