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Btw, the weight difference between an M9/MM and the D800 is rather insignificant.

 

47% more is "insignificant?" If you income increased by 47% (or declined by 32%) next year - you wouldn't notice?

 

And you can't take a picture with just a camera body - you have to have a lens as well.

 

My M9 with any of my lenses attached weighs less than a D800 with NO lens at all.

 

My main shooting set of M lenses - combined - weigh less than a D800.

 

15 Super-Heliar - 129g

21 Elmarit - 257g

35 Summicron - 132g

90 Tele-Elmarit - 237g

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Total - 755g

D800 - 900g

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I don't disagree. But I handled the D800 with a vintage Nikon 1.8/50 next to my M9 with a chrome Summilux a week ago and found that the mass was no decisive factor for me, just the bulk of the body. And the frenzy of buttons - but let's not go there ;)|.

I guess the Nikon feels less "dense" because it is larger.

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I don't disagree. But I handled the D800 with a vintage Nikon 1.8/50 next to my M9 with a chrome Summilux a week ago and found that the mass was no decisive factor for me, just the bulk of the body. And the frenzy of buttons - but let's not go there ;)|.

I guess the Nikon feels less "dense" because it is larger.

 

handling is one thing

using "in the field is another"

 

walking all day with a D800E and 35mm f1.4 lens has its ups and downs

 

walking all day with a M9 and 50mm f1.4 or 35mm f1.4 is a Joy

 

the Leica combination is smaller and the nikon kit is 76% heavier (if you look at it from a M9 perspective)

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Practical outcome - I'm not giving up the M9; I'm giving up medium-telephoto photography (unless absolutely necessary). Lugging the 5D just isn't worth it.

 

My 5D2, which really is a formidable photographic tool, spends most of its days at home to be used for macro and studio work. I've been wondering if I'll ever sell it but I consider it - and most of my photo equipment - as sunk costs.

 

I'm currently exclusively M film and, speaking of weight, have found that I don't even feel my TTL and the 35 FLE or 50 Asph when on my shoulder. All those years with a 1N, booster and big lens must have numbed the nerves in my shoulder :)

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D800 - 900g

 

I will note, however, that Nikon just raised (or lowered) the bar with the D600, which has slimmed down the weight of a FF DSLR to 750g (battery included).

 

I'm waiting to see what Leica announces Monday, but I have a feeling between the D600 and a possible EVF-M + adapter as an "R-solution," something may be about to retire my 5D2 even for longer lenses and video. Not immediately, but 6 months or so out once we've seen some real results and reports from the new contenders.....

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With all respect, I think you have bad manners. Dislike a camera - good enough for your wife anyway! Ask her if she wants the camera and waiting for her answer? No!

You should invest in a bevhaviour course. Maybe sell your Leica for this purpose?

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With all respect, I think you have bad manners. Dislike a camera - good enough for your wife anyway! Ask her if she wants the camera and waiting for her answer? No!

You should invest in a bevhaviour course. Maybe sell your Leica for this purpose?

 

Never heard so much BS in all my life

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MIght point out the advantage of buying from a reputable dealer - who probably would have

taken the Nikon back and if not returned your cash, at least given you credit for a new Leica lens (or part of one, depending upon the model). Shlepping that off on your wife was a tad

chauvinistic, when, if she needed a camera at all, would have probably been happy with a

small point and shoot or an i-phone.

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MIght point out the advantage of buying from a reputable dealer - who probably would have

taken the Nikon back and if not returned your cash, at least given you credit for a new Leica lens (or part of one, depending upon the model). Shlepping that off on your wife was a tad

chauvinistic, when, if she needed a camera at all, would have probably been happy with a

small point and shoot or an i-phone.

 

Although your first point is valid, the last sentence is potentially sexist - the little woman only needs the 'P&S'. You may be right but how do you know that the OPs wife is not the more accomplished photographer and wanted a Nikon DSLR all along?

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I will note, however, that Nikon just raised (or lowered) the bar with the D600, which has slimmed down the weight of a FF DSLR to 750g (battery included).

 

I'm waiting to see what Leica announces Monday, but I have a feeling between the D600 and a possible EVF-M + adapter as an "R-solution," something may be about to retire my 5D2 even for longer lenses and video. Not immediately, but 6 months or so out once we've seen some real results and reports from the new contenders.....

 

I bought a D600 10 days ago to complement my M9. No regrets here, the Nikon is a great camera and with a (very) careful selection of lenses goes extremely well with the Leica. Image quality is superb and far better than my old 5D Mk2.

 

Tony

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