14138 Televit to 280/4.8 and 400/5: New batch to be made

[wlaidlaw]

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Another forum member has access to facilities which can run off a batch of 14138 adapters to enable the mounting of the heads from the following lenses to the Televit follow focus device for a Visoflex.

 

280mm/f4.8 - versions 2 and 3

400mm/f5 (not the 400/f5.6, which needs the aperture body)

 

We are trying to obtain some sort of idea of the size of the market for such an adapter. We do not have a price at the moment, as this depends on volume. To get this started, he needs to feel reasonably happy that 50 units can be sold. Drawings/CAD data have already been done.

 

If you would be interested, I should be grateful if you could indicate on this thread. This would not be a commitment to purchase but just to get an idea of the potential market.

 

In the open market, these adapters are very rare and only one has come up on eBay in the last 12 months. It fetched around $250. I have been trying to find one for 2 years now.

 

To simplify my life, I should be grateful if this thread was not used to discuss the adapter but just to express interest in purchasing one. I have no financial interest in this exercise; I am just keen to assist the re-manufacture to get under way, so that I can have one.

 

Wilson

[jaapv]

I didn't realioze how lucky I was to get the adapter with my Televit from EBay last year....

[k-hawinkler]

I am interested as long as the price is reasonable.

[wlaidlaw]

I posted a similar thread in Rangefinder Forum. The thread has been deleted with no explanation or attempt to contact me by a moderator. I am afraid this is typical of the bad manners extant on that forum.

 

Wilson

[hsw]

I'm in.

[jc_braconi]

We are 4 at the moment

let time helping getting more people...

[dwarters]

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I'm looking for one too

[wlaidlaw]

I am afraid now that I have 300 mm, 600 mm and 1200 mm Tele Tessars to use on my M240 and have sold both my Telyt 280's, I am out.

 

Wilson

[luigi bertolotti]

I am afraid now that I have 300 mm, 600 mm and 1200 mm Tele Tessars to use on my M240 and have sold both my Telyt 280's, I am out.

 

Wilson

 

Tele Tessar 1200 ? Which lens is this ?

[wlaidlaw]

Tele Tessar 1200 ? Which lens is this ?

 

Tele Tessar 300/2.8 with Mutar II + Mutar 1.

 

Wilson

[chris_livsey]

I posted a similar thread in Rangefinder Forum. The thread has been deleted with no explanation or attempt to contact me by a moderator. I am afraid this is typical of the bad manners extant on that forum.

 

Wilson

 

I suspect you have been subject to Rule No. 5 - No Self-Promotion

 

5) Members will not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, MLM, activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with (ie. no self-promotion). Additionally Self-Promotion links will no longer be allowed in your signature. This is intended for commercial establishments that try to advertise on RFF without going through the proper process. Promoting a website or product that you are in some way involved with, without divulging that involvement, is sufficient reason to be banned. This does not apply to sponsors, who have paid for advertising in order to promote themselves on RFF.

 

Note in particular the last sentence.

[Susie]

I'd be happy buying an adaptor - if someone can point me in the direction of a Televit! I have 200/4 280/4.8 and 400/5 telyts.

 

Susie

[jc_braconi]

Déja vu ...

I had to got what you see all around to get the adaptor ...

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[wlaidlaw]

I suspect you have been subject to Rule No. 5 - No Self-Promotion

 

5) Members will not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, MLM, activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with (ie. no self-promotion). Additionally Self-Promotion links will no longer be allowed in your signature. This is intended for commercial establishments that try to advertise on RFF without going through the proper process. Promoting a website or product that you are in some way involved with, without divulging that involvement, is sufficient reason to be banned. This does not apply to sponsors, who have paid for advertising in order to promote themselves on RFF.

 

Note in particular the last sentence.

 

Then obviously the moderator concerned either was stupid, did not read my post properly or did not speak english. This was an attempt to find out if people were prepared to join a cooperative to get a short run of these very rare adapters re-made. I made it 100% clear that I had no commercial or financial interest in the manufacture but that unless we reached a minimum quantum of commitment, nobody would be interested in making even a very short run of these custom adapters, to be sold at cost. I was purely acting in the interests of the RF community. If RFF's rules prevent such activity, then they are pedantic and against the interests of the community.

 

It would be more to the point if the moderators stamped down on the flaming, trolling and general unpleasantness that is a frequent occurrence on their forum.

 

Wilson

[chris_livsey]

I was not attempting, nor would I , to defend their action. The very minimum is that they were discourteous and should have discussed their actions with you. You are understandably and justifiably aggrieved, your non-profit clause obviously made no difference.

I certainly was not aware of the "rule" until I looked and was particular to point out the commercial interests it was obviously designed to protect.

 

 

As ever, before someone else does:-

 

I sent the club a wire stating, "PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER".Telegram to the Friar's Club of Beverly Hills to which he belonged, as recounted in Groucho and Me (1959), p. 321

 

The sentiment predates Marx by 61 years, however; it likely originated with John Galsworthy in The Forsyte Saga. In Part I, Chapter II, "Old Jolyon Goes to the Opera", it's said of Old Jolyon that, "He naturally despised the Club that did take him." after another refused him because he was in a trade.

[Susie]

Hi Guys,

 

Can the Televit-R be adapted to fit onto a Visoflex? There are a few about for sale at the moment, but I'd need to fit it to my M or screw cameras. I have a Viso 11 screwfit as well as the M Visos.

 

Susie

[luigi bertolotti]

Hi Guys,

 

Can the Televit-R be adapted to fit onto a Visoflex? There are a few about for sale at the moment, but I'd need to fit it to my M or screw cameras. I have a Viso 11 screwfit as well as the M Visos.

 

Susie

 

No, it can't (or, at least, can't without machining) ... the Televit R is made for the R mount, to say, a 47mm flange distance : when you mount a Viso II or III on a Leica M you have a total flange distance of 27,8+41=68,8 mm : the Televit R (adapted with some ring) would stand too far from neg/sensor to allow focus at infinity... it would result into a sort of macro setup.

 

So, you should have to "cut away" a "slice" of the Televit R... which could maybe be possible depending on how it is made, which I do not know... I say this because I did succed in adapting a lens for R mount to Visoflex (the Telyt S 800... ) : by chance the operation was rather easy because there was "room to maneuver"... its R bayonet was a rather long subassembly which could be removed (screws) and I could exchange it with a M bayonet through a simple machining work: don't know if the Televit R could be modified as such : JC Braconi surely can give a sure answer about...(I tend to think it is not possible : from the picture he posted above, the Televit R seems to be too next to the R4 flange to have around 22mm "cuttable in some way"...)

 

Of course, the RIGHT solution is to buy a M240 ... you put aside the Viso and fit the Televit R as any other R lens, with the original (or 3rd party) adapter , looking and focusing through LV/LCD or accessory EVF...

 

Curiosly at the moment there is on ebay a Telyt 560 with Televit for Viso (or, at least, so is looking at the picture...and the code is indeed 14137... but the description says "R mount"... ... Leica Telyt R 560mm 5 6 with Televid Rapid Focus And | eBay)

[k-hawinkler]

Well the mount pieces of the 400/6.8 and 560/6.8 are interchangeable.

I have one mount piece in V and one in R, so can use either lens on a Visoflex.

Of course, the R version also should work on the M240, NEX, and OMD.

[wildlightphoto]

... you should have to "cut away" a "slice" of the Televit R... which could maybe be possible depending on how it is made, which I do not know... I say this because I did succed in adapting a lens for R mount to Visoflex (the Telyt S 800... ) : by chance the operation was rather easy because there was "room to maneuver"... its R bayonet was a rather long subassembly which could be removed (screws) and I could exchange it with a M bayonet through a simple machining work: don't know if the Televit R could be modified as such

 

The R mount on the Televit is also a simple subassembly and since the 800mm Telyt-S and the Televit were made around the same time I would not be surprised if the parts are very similar if not interchangeable. Having owned at various times both the Televit-R and Televit-V, my recollection is that the M mount simply replaces the R assembly.

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[jc_braconi]

No, it can't (or, at least, can't without machining) ... the Televit R is made for the R mount, to say, a 47mm flange distance : when you mount a Viso II or III on a Leica M you have a total flange distance of 27,8+41=68,8 mm : the Televit R (adapted with some ring) would stand too far from neg/sensor to allow focus at infinity... it would result into a sort of macro setup.

 

So, you should have to "cut away" a "slice" of the Televit R... which could maybe be possible depending on how it is made, which I do not know... I say this because I did succed in adapting a lens for R mount to Visoflex (the Telyt S 800... ) : by chance the operation was rather easy because there was "room to maneuver"... its R bayonet was a rather long subassembly which could be removed (screws) and I could exchange it with a M bayonet through a simple machining work: don't know if the Televit R could be modified as such : JC Braconi surely can give a sure answer about...(I tend to think it is not possible : from the picture he posted above, the Televit R seems to be too next to the R4 flange to have around 22mm "cuttable in some way"...)

 

Of course, the RIGHT solution is to buy a M240 ... you put aside the Viso and fit the Televit R as any other R lens, with the original (or 3rd party) adapter , looking and focusing through LV/LCD or accessory EVF...

 

Curiosly at the moment there is on ebay a Telyt 560 with Televit for Viso (or, at least, so is looking at the picture...and the code is indeed 14137... but the description says "R mount"... ... Leica Telyt R 560mm 5 6 with Televid Rapid Focus And | eBay)

Luigi, I am far from my stuff for a while so what I can refer are the picts I posted on summilux.net some years ago + the one with the R4 may be it can help illustrate your tell.

 

the one you linked to Ebay is for Viso for sure.

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