Joachim123 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #1 Posted June 24, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was looking at some of last year's slides shot on Kodachrome 64. I sure miss that film. Does anyone else wish it was still being made? Sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 Hi Joachim123, Take a look here I miss Kodachrome. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
NB23 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #2 Posted June 24, 2012 Of course i miss it!! Never, ever, did my Leica lenses show their true nature except on Kodachrome. That was a heavenly combo: leica gear and Kodachrome. Digital users nowadays rely on some adobe programs with various gimmicks and sharpening tools to correct the flaws. How on earth can you truly judge your leica lenses anymore? Thank God ilford and Tri-x still exist. What's today's standard? M9M and lightroom? M9P and photoshop? Pathetic, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myshkine Posted June 24, 2012 Share #3 Posted June 24, 2012 I also miss Ektachrome... I wonder what E6 film members of the Forum consider the closer to Kodachrome in colour rendering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted June 24, 2012 Share #4 Posted June 24, 2012 ...Digital users nowadays rely on some adobe programs with various gimmicks and sharpening tools to correct the flaws. How on earth can you truly judge your leica lenses anymore?...If your main aim in life — your photographic life — is to "truly judge your Leica lenses" you can tell yourself all the lies that you want. Other people just move on and make photographs even with Leica lenses as in this thread another version of which is called "You Can Stop Missing Kodachrome Now". —Mitch/Singapore Pak Nam Pran: From Fishing Village to... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted June 24, 2012 Share #5 Posted June 24, 2012 I was looking at some of last year's slides shot on Kodachrome 64. I sure miss that film. Does anyone else wish it was still being made? Sad. You're not the only one who misses Kodachrome. I think we can lay the blame for Kodachrome's demise - as well as Ilfochrome media's loss -squarely at the feet of the digital "revolution." Digging deeper into this postmortem, at the root of the loss of these irreplaceable materials we find the willingness of the masses to trade quality for speed and the entertainment of what is in essence video game photography and printmaking. To my eye, nothing so far offered by digital photography can equal the beauty of Kodachrome film and Ilfochrome print media. Settling for less in terms of quality in exchange for speed of print production and time on the keyboard is a fool's errand IMHO. Others may disagree but that's the way I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #6 Posted June 24, 2012 If your main aim in life — your photographic life — is to "truly judge your Leica lenses" you can tell yourself all the lies that you want. Other people just move on and make photographs even with Leica lenses as in this thread another version of which is called "You Can Stop Missing Kodachrome Now". —Mitch/Singapore Pak Nam Pran: From Fishing Village to... LOL!! Too funny. Even funnier is the fact that you don't know who you're trying to outsmart. I shoot over 200,000 digital shots a year. My team shoots 300,000. That makes half-a million shots. My team spends over 6160 Hours a year in post-production. I also shoot iPhone photography (I never thought that one day I'd have to say this to be taken seriously :confused:) Believe me, I am not trying to impress you although, quite frankly, it is very impressive. And what does a man with such an impressive digital experience have to say about Kodachrome? What do I have to say about Kodachrome? That it's missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2012 Share #7 Posted June 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) If it is missed so much it is a pity that more was not bought. If more film had been purchased it would have still been for sale. Sadly film is all but finished, If enough people are prepared to pay an ever increasing price it will limp along for a while,but prob only a short while. BrianP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 25, 2012 Share #8 Posted June 25, 2012 Hello Uejima & Brian, I think if you look you will find 1 of the major forces leading to the discontinuance of both Cibachrome & Kodachrome was the environmental toxicitry of the chemicals involved in their production & subsequent development. The World's ability to maintain & replenish itself needs to be considered also. Best Regards, Michael Who used & preferred Kodachrome & thinks very highly of the quality of the images produced w/ Cibachrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted June 25, 2012 Share #9 Posted June 25, 2012 Me too. I doubt my digital images in 40 years will look as good as my 40 year old slides because of changing formats,hard drive failures, etc. Something really nice about that cardboard frame with a slide in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted June 25, 2012 Share #10 Posted June 25, 2012 Hello Uejima & Brian, I think if you look you will find 1 of the major forces leading to the discontinuance of both Cibachrome & Kodachrome was the environmental toxicitry of the chemicals involved in their production & subsequent development. The World's ability to maintain & replenish itself needs to be considered also. Best Regards, Michael Who used & preferred Kodachrome & thinks very highly of the quality of the images produced w/ Cibachrome. If environmental concerns are to be addressed, there are a myriad of activities that cause exponentially more environmental damage than the production and use of photography film, paper and chemicals. Air travel is one example. I would hazard a guess that in one week a typical jetliner dumps more pollution into the earth's enviroment than all of the combined Kodachrome and Ilfochrome ever produced and used - yet who among us has not boarded a jetliner with no consideration of the environmental impact of air travel? It's easy to point the finger at others yet not so easy to clean up our own act if it causes us inconvenience on a personal level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddoc2003jp Posted June 25, 2012 Share #11 Posted June 25, 2012 I too miss Kodachrome but have yet to see a digitally rendered image that comes close to a Kodachrome slide. That film was unique. Environmental considerations (next to an evanescent market and company management issues) might have been one of the reasons Kodachrome is gone. However, the toxicity level (not the amount) of the chemicals used to produce image sensors (with Kodak having been a maker) is quite high, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stack62 Posted June 25, 2012 Share #12 Posted June 25, 2012 I saw William Albert Allard last year, and I think he put it best when he said about Kodachrome "you could paint with that film" A great link here to Fred Herzog's Kodachromes from the 1950's to the '80s. I believe all shot with Leica's Equinox Gallery Vancouver - Works by Fred Herzog Equinox Gallery Vancouver - Works by Fred Herzog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted June 25, 2012 Share #13 Posted June 25, 2012 I too miss Kodachrome but have yet to see a digitally rendered image that comes close to a Kodachrome slide. I did a side-by-side comparison of my last roll of K25 in a Leicaflex SL with the Leica DMR, using the 280mm f/4 APO on both cameras. Once the Kodachrome slides arrived (weeks later) I was glad it was my last roll of K25. Comparing color quality, dynamic range, image detail, grain/noise, the DMR provided much more of what I was looking for... and this was with the DMR at ISO 400. Kodachrome processing after Kodak spun off the operation to Qualex was nowhere near as good as it was in the Kodak labs, especially the one at 925 Page Mill Road in Palo Alto. Can't blame the film for that, but there wasn't much point using the film w/o the processing. IMHO Qualex was the beginning of the end for Kodachrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 25, 2012 Share #14 Posted June 25, 2012 Hello Uejima, Actually, there are some people who worry about the environmental impact of air travel. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted June 25, 2012 Share #15 Posted June 25, 2012 LOL!! Too funny. Even funnier is the fact that you don't know who you're trying to outsmart. I shoot over 200,000 digital shots a year. My team shoots 300,000. That makes half-a million shots. My team spends over 6160 Hours a year in post-production. I also shoot iPhone photography (I never thought that one day I'd have to say this to be taken seriously :confused:) Believe me, I am not trying to impress you although, quite frankly, it is very impressive. And what does a man with such an impressive digital experience have to say about Kodachrome? What do I have to say about Kodachrome? That it's missed. You're telling me that you shoot over 200,000 digital shots a year and that your team spends over 6,160 hour in post-production — and you're not trying to impress me? But, believe me, this doesn't impress me. Actually, what does impress me is what Doug Herr (wildlightphoto), whose splendid photography I know and admire, writes: I did a side-by-side comparison of my last roll of K25 in a Leicaflex SL with the Leica DMR, using the 280mm f/4 APO on both cameras. Once the Kodachrome slides arrived (weeks later) I was glad it was my last roll of K25. Comparing color quality, dynamic range, image detail, grain/noise, the DMR provided much more of what I was looking for... and this was with the DMR at ISO 400. —Mitch/Singapore Pak Nam Pran: From Fishing Village to... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 25, 2012 Share #16 Posted June 25, 2012 At the risk of sending this off topic, what the hell does anyone do with 200,000 shots per year? On topic,I liked Kodachrome when it was a 70s experience, not a 21C one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted June 25, 2012 Share #17 Posted June 25, 2012 I never got into the cult of Kodachrome. Perhaps I was put off by the people who would show a photograph because it was made with Kodachrome, rather than because it was a good photograph. So if it really needed Kodachrome to "truly judge your Leica lenses" I'm glad its gone, although sadly other ways are still found to demonstrate equipment rather than demonstrate photography. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 25, 2012 Share #18 Posted June 25, 2012 At the risk of sending this off topic, what the hell does anyone do with 200,000 shots per year? Only 200,000? That's what most people on here seem to shoot on an average weekend with their digicams! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alw Posted June 25, 2012 Share #19 Posted June 25, 2012 Only 200,000? That's what most people on here seem to shoot on an average weekend with their digicams! Yep, and it´s disgusting. Speaking of Kodachrome, I don´t know what I´ve missed as I never tried it. Wish I had, looking at the images made with it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2012 Share #20 Posted June 25, 2012 Hello Uejima, Actually, there are some people who worry about the environmental impact of air travel. Best Regards, Michael But does that stop them from using air travel. Every so often there will be a tv programne about the conditions of workers in clothing factories and how poor they appear to be ( especially to people who have never been in one) These same people never look at the label in the garments they buy and write to M and S and say I want to buy British clothing eg. The majority give lip service at the most to environmental affairs. I am pretty sure that if Kodachrome could be sold in 1970 volumes it would still be available in spite of the chemicals. However it is 2012 and in 2112 I am sure the Leica forum will have people regretting not keeping their m9 and 50 mm cron (2012 version) Hope there is still a Barton giving up lots of his time to mod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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