viramati Posted September 1, 2012 Share #221 Posted September 1, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) In Thorsten's fantastic article leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Leica M9 Digital Rangefinder Camera - Page 17: "Light metering with the Leica M9 and Leica M9-P and Leica M Monochrom" at one point he says "The reason I use this mode is that on the Leica M9 I use either ISO 160 (outdoor) or ISO 800 (indoor) (the Leica M Monochrom and the Leica M10 can go higher, so the indoor/evening ISO can be higher there; and the M Momochrom has a base ISO (natural sensor ISO) of 320 ISO why that would be your daylight/outdoor ISO)." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phil U Posted September 1, 2012 Share #222 Posted September 1, 2012 Freudian slip or typo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTI Posted September 1, 2012 Share #223 Posted September 1, 2012 Yeah I spotted that too seemed quite deliberate. Great article btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ph- Posted September 1, 2012 Share #224 Posted September 1, 2012 Or just stating the obvious... even the latest 4/3rds sized sensors are way more sensitive than the CCD sensor of the M9, so it would require an extraordinary effort not to have at least 1-2 more stops on the M10, though I am rather hoping on 3... Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share #225 Posted September 13, 2012 Nothing leaked through yet then ?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 13, 2012 Share #226 Posted September 13, 2012 I was thinking that the other day. Leica's NDA must be extremely tough this year. Mind you, the X1 was a surprise at 09/09/09 if my memory serves me correct. It's going to be a very interesting session on Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted September 13, 2012 Share #227 Posted September 13, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was thinking that the other day. Leica's NDA must be extremely tough this year. Mind you, the X1 was a surprise at 09/09/09 if my memory serves me correct. It's going to be a very interesting session on Monday. D-lux 6 and V-lux info have made it through already....posted a link in the digital forum------yet still nothing about the Ms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 14, 2012 Share #228 Posted September 14, 2012 Somebody has probably posted this already somewhere:http://www.reddotforum.com/content.php/262-Q-A-with-Stefan-Daniel-from-2010-LHSA-Meeting-in-Wetzlar-Mirrorless-cameras-future-directions-and-the-Leica-R-System Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share #229 Posted September 14, 2012 Rick thanks, scroll down and you see this Is there any chance that in future M cameras will have focus confirmation? 'This is directly linked to the next generation of sensors. Because if you have a live view sensor, you can not only generate a live view image, but you can also tell a sensor something about the focus. This live view sensor is the key to many improvements and innovations in future M cameras. So, yes, there will be focus confirmation on the next generation.' I understood that Leica had some of the patents here in any case, not a surprise looking forward to seeing the M10, perhaps with LED additions to the classic display, evolution of the titanium lines etc ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted September 14, 2012 Share #230 Posted September 14, 2012 ^^ It's two years old transcript? I wonder how much has changed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 14, 2012 Share #231 Posted September 14, 2012 ...looking forward to seeing the M10, perhaps with LED additions to the classic display, evolution of the titanium lines etc ? It won't look like a Xmas tree or the LEDs can be disabled hopefully. Focus peaking in the EVF would be enough for me. YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted September 14, 2012 Share #232 Posted September 14, 2012 Leica Rumors predict a new R mount adapter for M. Rumor: Leica will introduce a new R lens adapter for the upcoming digital M rangefinder | Leica News & Rumors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 14, 2012 Share #233 Posted September 14, 2012 One thing I am becoming more excited about with the M10 and EVF is the use up of closeup filters/lenses on my lenses. I would be amazing to see some Leica grade close up filters at some stage. Not sure if it's their bag though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTI Posted September 14, 2012 Share #234 Posted September 14, 2012 If through EVF and live view you could use R-lenses on a would-be M10, wouldn't this also mean you can use other lenses; i.e. Nikkors with adapters? That'd be pretty cool. Oh... and I wonder if you should start bagging cheap second hand R-lenses now while the getting is good. Sure there would be a price jolt if an M10 accepting R-lenses would hit the streets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 14, 2012 Share #235 Posted September 14, 2012 Nothing new about R mount adapters, (Leicina, Cameraquest, Novoflex) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertJRB Posted September 14, 2012 Share #236 Posted September 14, 2012 If through EVF and live view you could use R-lenses on a would-be M10, wouldn't this also mean you can use other lenses; i.e. Nikkors with adapters? That'd be pretty cool. Oh... and I wonder if you should start bagging cheap second hand R-lenses now while the getting is good. Sure there would be a price jolt if an M10 accepting R-lenses would hit the streets. Why use nikkor lenses if u have leica's? About the R lenses, ur a little late with that. Prices went up already when people started using them on their 5D's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTI Posted September 14, 2012 Share #237 Posted September 14, 2012 @ jaap. I meant 'use' more in reference to being able to focus with them and not resorting to zone focusing. @ robert. Prices will go up even more then won't they? I think each lens renders differently beyond what mtf charts and resolution will tell you and being able to experiment with other lenses on any camera is quite fun and sometimes rewarding. I used to use a 50mm 1.2 AIS which I absolutely loved on my D700. They're really cheap when compared to m-mount lenses (not just Leica). Now if you could use other non-M lenses other than Leica on the Leica M - why wouldn't you try? This is all moot for me and I'm just a happy bystander .. wouldn't be able to justify an M10 price anyway. I'm just waiting for the table scraps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted September 14, 2012 Share #238 Posted September 14, 2012 Yes, I think you should especially the longer lenses - already bought 2 R lenses since beginning of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 14, 2012 Share #239 Posted September 14, 2012 Sorry for the link to an old interview. Dale Photo posted the interview and I was misled to believe that it was a new interview because, it was just posted yesterday on their site and I only looked to see when it was posted on their site. Anyway, it is interesting to see again but, it is two years old. Also, where are all these "cheap" R lenses. The great ones are still expensive and some rarely show up for sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 15, 2012 Share #240 Posted September 15, 2012 Sorry for the link to an old interview. Dale Photo posted the interview and I was misled to believe that it was a new interview because, it was just posted yesterday on their site and I only looked to see when it was posted on their site. Anyway, it is interesting to see again but, it is two years old. Also, where are all these "cheap" R lenses. The great ones are still expensive and some rarely show up for sale. Don't apologise - I thought it was very interesting, particularly as the interview took place after the last Photokina and it provides an interesting insight into what Leica was thinking 2 years ago. We'll know in a couple of days just how accurate his comments were. It makes more interesting reading than predictions of the M10 failing ... Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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