johnloumiles Posted February 29, 2012 Share #1 Posted February 29, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) What's your preference? My kit is complete except for a wide lens. I shoot mostly street and I've had the 25 CV which was great but I want to try something different. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Hi johnloumiles, Take a look here 15 or 21 Voigtlander on a M8?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Digital~Nomad Posted February 29, 2012 Share #2 Posted February 29, 2012 I haven't been using the leica system very long now but after reading rave reviews i went for the 15mm voigtlander (version 2)...its tack sharp from the pics i've taken with it,i also purchased a 21mm view finder too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 29, 2012 Share #3 Posted February 29, 2012 A 24or25 is the perfect single wide lens for an M8. My CV 25 bought new because I needed a screw mount 25many years ago, is a pos on my M8. Bin candidate. So I am using two leica lenses ,21 & 28. So if you are to choose a 15 which in my opinion is far to wide as a single wide. My choice would be the 21. Use the 28 mm frame lines built into the camera to see if it works with your style. Many pros used to select a 35/21 as a wide pair. But you would only be picking the extreme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-St Posted February 29, 2012 Share #4 Posted February 29, 2012 I've had some great results using a CV15 (coded as a WATE) on my M8. I have the 21mm finder, but I think I prefer to work without it. In my experience, the horizontal FOV of the 15 is about the same as that of my eyes, and I find it easier to keep the horizon straight (and so avoid the perspective distortion this lens can so easily produce if you're not careful) if I'm not composing in the external viewfinder YMMV, of course, but I really enjoy using a lens that can see about the same as I can Hope that helps Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnloumiles Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for all your replies! I ended up going with the 21mm for a few reasons even though I know the 15 is capable of amazing things. 1) I am a street photographer first and foremost so I will never use a shoe mounted viewfinder. 2) The user reviews on B&H website were out of this world good. I've never seen a lens so lauded. 3) To my surprise the 21 was $200 cheaper (I thought they were both 600) so that was definitely the straw that broke the camels back I won't lie. Looking forward to shooting wide, haven't done it in a while. Thanks again and I'm still interested to hear people's opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted March 1, 2012 Share #6 Posted March 1, 2012 If you are so inclined, it would be nice to see you post some samples with your new lens in the M8 Photography Thread. Thx Richard Thanks for all your replies! I ended up going with the 21mm for a few reasons even though I know the 15 is capable of amazing things. 1) I am a street photographer first and foremost so I will never use a shoe mounted viewfinder. 2) The user reviews on B&H website were out of this world good. I've never seen a lens so lauded. 3) To my surprise the 21 was $200 cheaper (I thought they were both 600) so that was definitely the straw that broke the camels back I won't lie. Looking forward to shooting wide, haven't done it in a while. Thanks again and I'm still interested to hear people's opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnloumiles Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted March 1, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you are so inclined, it would be nice to see you post some samples with your new lens in the M8 Photography Thread. Thx Richard Hi Richard, I'd be glad to. Lens comes tomorrow so I'll pop of a few shots this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 2, 2012 Share #8 Posted March 2, 2012 If you mean the Skopar 21/4 P it is a great lens indeed. Tiny size, plenty sharp at f/4.5 and on, very little flare, smooth bokeh, it would deserve a red dot. The metal frame of the viewfinder can be used comfortably to compose and the latter is not blocked by the barrel or the hood contrary to Leicas. For color shots with IR-cut filter i code the Skopar like the Super-Elmar 21 (110011) as it seems more immune to cyan shift than both Elmarit (000001) and Elmarit asph (011000) codings but the difference is not huge anyway. FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ru55t Posted March 2, 2012 Share #9 Posted March 2, 2012 I'm luckily enough to have both of these lenses, picked up second hand at very reasonable prices. As well as their pin sharp performance I love their compact size. Wide angle lenses are a different discipline, here are a couple of my first efforts: 21mm Backlit London morning #8 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! 15mm Backlit London morning #1 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! I prefer the 21mm, its not such an extreme ulta wide as the 15mm. Its amazing how close you need to work even with 21mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted March 2, 2012 Share #10 Posted March 2, 2012 I use both on my M8; I find myself using the 15mm most, but would agree with others who have said that the 21 is the best all-rounder. Both are exceptional lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital~Nomad Posted March 2, 2012 Share #11 Posted March 2, 2012 I'm luckily enough to have both of these lenses, picked up second hand at very reasonable prices.As well as their pin sharp performance I love their compact size. Wide angle lenses are a different discipline, here are a couple of my first efforts: 21mm Backlit London morning #8 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! 15mm Backlit London morning #1 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! I prefer the 21mm, its not such an extreme ulta wide as the 15mm. Its amazing how close you need to work even with 21mm. Couple of cracking shots.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marignac Posted March 3, 2012 Share #12 Posted March 3, 2012 I've bought my used M8 with a bundle of lenses, among them the CV 21/4 in question. I originally had no intention to keep this lens, but its IQ is nothing less than convincing, so I keep it. Be aware of the fact that the CV21/4 does not transmit to the finder <0.7m which is by design. Other than that this is a most perfect lens for 1.33 crop at a most interesting price, very capable from full aperture on. As for 15mm make sure you really need that angle. I have sold my super wide lens (a 12-24 Xenon for Pentax K mount on an APS-C Pentax Kx) after a few shots. I became aware of the fact that I was shooting at that angle for the effect, not for what the image required. But maybe that just tells you that I'm not having an eye for super wide angle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 3, 2012 Share #13 Posted March 3, 2012 I have been using the 15mm on the wider M9 set as a 21mm with good results. I'd say go 15mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted March 3, 2012 Share #14 Posted March 3, 2012 If you can afford it the 21 Elmarit M asph is superb on the M8 It paints beautifully and is one if my favourite lenses on my M8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianyves Posted March 3, 2012 Share #15 Posted March 3, 2012 I went with the 15 II myself. I finally found a 21 finder this week and no longer have to shoot blind! Here are a couple of my shots done without the finder: Rush Hour Madness At f/5.6 and ISO 640 in very low light it's a pretty decent performer! Down to the Line Really love the ~20mm FOV this gives and interesting perspectives as a result. I had a choice between the older screw mount and the M coupled version II and went with the latter since mounting an IR filter would be easier for my purposes. The shots above were done without an IR filter but am now seeing the cyan corners and will have to go with cornerfix and code the lens eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted March 7, 2012 Share #16 Posted March 7, 2012 15CV has but one really sharp f stop, 5.6 or 8. At least mine and original reviews. CV quality is iffy. But if you need a 21 mm view on the M8, it is that or wate or Zeiss. The last two being so expensive you may just as well buy M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted March 7, 2012 Share #17 Posted March 7, 2012 Prefer the CV 15 - sharper, more dramatic. Looked at the Zeiss and Leica 21, wasn't sure if they were worth the extra money. In hindsight, if you like that size lens, I'd recommend the Zeiss as a good price point between the two. Below are shots from the 15. The 15 is as sharp as any lens on the M8. The 21 isn't quite there, although the viewing angle is calmer. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/173839-15-or-21-voigtlander-on-a-m8/?do=findComment&comment=1946546'>More sharing options...
StenSture Posted March 13, 2012 Share #18 Posted March 13, 2012 I just love the small 15mm. Really sharp. In my opinion it is quite a gem. I can't recommend it enough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailronin Posted March 13, 2012 Share #19 Posted March 13, 2012 I love the 15mm on my M8. For architecture get a bubble level to go in the hot shoe, makes a huge difference in keeping the perspective correct. I don't use a viewfinder, the entire camera viewfinder is a good approximation of the field of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikP Posted March 19, 2012 Share #20 Posted March 19, 2012 Found à 21/4 CV yesterday at eBay. On its way - looking forward to find out if it is a keeper! I've bought my used M8 with a bundle of lenses, among them the CV 21/4 in question. I originally had no intention to keep this lens, but its IQ is nothing less than convincing, so I keep it. Be aware of the fact that the CV21/4 does not transmit to the finder <0.7m which is by design. Other than that this is a most perfect lens for 1.33 crop at a most interesting price, very capable from full aperture on. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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