tenoates Posted January 15, 2012 Share #1 Posted January 15, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was going through my LP's today and pulled out Bruno Walter's 1956 "The Birth of a Performance" and I thought that the title would make a strong counterpoint to the Leica M3 and IIIf. One of the original reviews of the album at the time said that " It will come as a revelation to many to actually experience the painstaking care and understanding that goes into such effort." The M3 and IIIf are also the results of painstaking and ingenious engineering and craftsmanship brought about by Oskar Barnack's legacy. Both cameras are highly regarded jewels that defined and continue to define photography for generations to come. Their release were highly anticipated and received that indeed, for photography and photographers, their coming were the birth of a (new) performance. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/170560-the-birth-of-a-performance-m3-and-iiif/?do=findComment&comment=1898260'>More sharing options...
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NB23 Posted January 15, 2012 Share #2 Posted January 15, 2012 What a shame is my first thought. My revelation in your post. "It will come as a revelation to many to actually experience the painstaking care and understanding that goes into such effort." Why not put such effort into your own photography instead of focusing on other people's work and on some physical hardware? Cameras are just cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted January 15, 2012 Share #3 Posted January 15, 2012 What a shame is my first thought. My revelation in your post. "It will come as a revelation to many to actually experience the painstaking care and understanding that goes into such effort." Why not put such effort into your own photography instead of focusing on other people's work and on some physical hardware? Cameras are just cameras. Not for every people .... In an another case I do not think that a Ferrari is just a car... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted January 15, 2012 Share #4 Posted January 15, 2012 What a shame is my first thought. My revelation in your post. "It will come as a revelation to many to actually experience the painstaking care and understanding that goes into such effort." Why not put such effort into your own photography instead of focusing on other people's work and on some physical hardware? Cameras are just cameras. So, someone appreciates fine engineering, and you can just be rude about it! Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphoenix Posted January 15, 2012 Share #5 Posted January 15, 2012 So, someone appreciates fine engineering, and you can just be rude about it! Gerry +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted January 16, 2012 Share #6 Posted January 16, 2012 What a shame is my first thought. My revelation in your post. "It will come as a revelation to many to actually experience the painstaking care and understanding that goes into such effort." Why not put such effort into your own photography instead of focusing on other people's work and on some physical hardware? Cameras are just cameras. My revelation is some people have no manners and courtesy when hiding behind the internet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted January 16, 2012 Share #7 Posted January 16, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello tenoates, Welcome to the Forum. Nice photos. Nice thoughts. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 16, 2012 Share #8 Posted January 16, 2012 What a shame is my first thought. My revelation in your post. "It will come as a revelation to many to actually experience the painstaking care and understanding that goes into such effort." Why not put such effort into your own photography instead of focusing on other people's work and on some physical hardware? Cameras are just cameras. We've been here (or there) before. We know lots of people use Leica's because of the precision feel of the cameras (talking about the older models specifically), not to mention the many collectors who buy them just purely as objects. Also ones equipment can influence the way one works, and the end results. I've tried one of the Voigtlander bodies. I'm sure that they are perfectly good cameras, and of course, the results compared to a Leica with the same lens will appear identical, but I'd much prefer to use the Leica thankyou! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david werbeloff Posted January 16, 2012 Share #9 Posted January 16, 2012 Hello Tenoates, As Michael said above, thank you for sharing your thoughts and images. Moving past the unspeakably rude and unnecessary reply at the top of this thread, I would like to add my own thoughts. Bruno Walter (born Schlesinger) was a student of Gustav Mahler, arguably one of the greatest conductors, orchestrators and composers ever. Walter provides us with a direct link to the great German/Austrian musical tradition which preceded him. As we know, music is just one aspect of the industriousness and inventivness with which we credit the German people. Leica cameras, of course, are another. We should enjoy and celebrate this. At the same time, we should not forget the dark chapter which hangs over this same people, evident even with Mahler and Walter who eschewed or denied their Jewish heritage in order to navigate the anti-semitic zeitgeist in which they worked long before there was Hitler. Tenoates, again, thank you for a little philosophy. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted January 16, 2012 Share #10 Posted January 16, 2012 Art can't exist in isolation, it feeds of many influences so I think its great that people can find connections. Music may influence a photograph just as a photograph can influence a novel etc. It would be a good theme for a Barnack Challenge, taking a title from a book and interpret it. But the album and the analogy with the camera are a more mechanistic connection, the route to the artwork rather than the artwork itself. Its like looking at the blueprints of a Ferrari and imaging the sound. I think most of us photograph our camera's if they are beautiful, but it would be good to think it is once only, for the record (pun!). So I think I can see where NB23's frustration lies, even though it may not have been the thread to say it in or the best way to express it. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted January 16, 2012 Share #11 Posted January 16, 2012 I don't think I was rude more then simply outspoken and direct. We're all Leica lovers and fondlers, that's true. But what really stroke me is when you quote an artist talking about his art and how he achieved it, he wasn't talking about his tools but about himself. There's no Opera where Amadeus praises his ridiculous harpsichord to justify his Genius or to explain his never-ending inspiration. No way. But since it's the "Leica Collectors & Historica" forum, I'll humbly apologize for my rudeness but not for my ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted January 16, 2012 Share #12 Posted January 16, 2012 Wife to husband : That's a good photo, you must have a good camera Husband to wife : That's a nice cake, you must have a good cooker :-). Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendriphile Posted January 16, 2012 Share #13 Posted January 16, 2012 We know that Bach expressed preference for certain makes of pipe organ (i.e., the Silbermann); and that Beethoven preferred certain makes of pianos (i.e.,the Broadwood) because they found them more congenial for them to express their thought. And when Amadeus Mozart got the opportunity to conduct a certain particular orchestra, he bragged about it in a letter to his father. BTW the "Birth of a Performance" recording is so wonderful, it will have you convinced that the "Linz" is Mozart's greatest symphony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted January 16, 2012 Share #14 Posted January 16, 2012 We know that Bach expressed preference for certain makes of pipe organ (i.e., the Silbermann); and that Beethoven preferred certain makes of pianos (i.e.,the Broadwood) because they found them more congenial for them to express their thought. And when Amadeus Mozart got the opportunity to conduct a certain particular orchestra, he bragged about it in a letter to his father. BTW the "Birth of a Performance" recording is so wonderful, it will have you convinced that the "Linz" is Mozart's greatest symphony. Thanks for that. From now on I will never ever call these great composers by their names anymore. It will be "He Who used Broadwood" and "He Who Bragged about using a Silbermann". Kinda gives more weight to their Chef d'oeuvres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted January 17, 2012 Share #15 Posted January 17, 2012 Hello Everybody, It's good to remember this is a Forum for people interested in all aspects of Leitz/Leica photography. There are a lot of aspects. Some people actually like the "stuff" itself beyond its ability to take pictures. 1 of the aspects. Best Regards, Michael btw: There are even people here who like to take pictures w/ the "stuff". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted January 20, 2012 Share #16 Posted January 20, 2012 Hello Everybody, It's good to remember this is a Forum for people interested in all aspects of Leitz/Leica photography. There are a lot of aspects. Some people actually like the "stuff" itself beyond its ability to take pictures. 1 of the aspects. Best Regards, Michael btw: There are even people here who like to take pictures w/ the "stuff". So true, Michael, and too often forgotten. It is interesting how often the same nicknames are hidden in threads as a result of having ended up on my ignore list. Cheers Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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