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Anyone know the DMR serial range?


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I was wondering if anyone know the DMR serial range. In Erwin Putts compendium it is not to be found, and as far as I can tell the range is all out of normal Leica Camera AG sequence (as it is around the same as the M3 serial numbers)

 

Any ideas or hints, except http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/DMR

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In World War II, when approaching the river Rhine after D-Day, the Allied troops occasionally encountered abandoned German tanks that were destroyed in combat or have run out of fuel, and registered their serial numbers. Assuming the Germans were dumb enough to start their numbering at 1 and keep it strictly consecutive, the mathmaticians at Bletchley Park, England, were able to compute the approximate rate of Germany's tank production—which apparently was significantly lower than German Nazi propagada suggested. After the war was over, it turned out that the British estimations were pretty close to the actual production numbers.

 

When I apply basically the same assumptions and calculations to the DMR serial numbers posted so far, I get the following results:

 

Lowest serial number: 1000372

Highest serial number: 1002609

Number of units produced: 2,238

 

Keep in mind that this assumes the serial numbers start at some arbitrary number, are assigned in a strictly consecutive way from there, and the data base is pretty small (nine serial numbers only). So this must be taken with a lump of salt ;)

 

 

I was surprised to find that mine [...] is 1001001.
All ones and zeroes. Just on its own, that may be the finest serial number, ever.

Did you know that there are 10 kinds of people in the world? Those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.

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Mine is 1001154.

 

 

I was surprised to find that mine, bought secondhand from a dealer I have used a great deal, is 1001001.

Frank

 

all 1s and zeros. Just on it's own, that may be the finest serial number, ever.

 

 

... not to mention that, not only all digits are binary, but it's also a palindrone!

 

Guy

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In World War II, when approaching the river Rhine after D-Day, the Allied troops occasionally encountered abandoned German tanks that were destroyed in combat or have run out of fuel, and registered their serial numbers. Assuming the Germans were dumb enough to start their numbering at 1 and keep it strictly consecutive, the mathmaticians at Bletchley Park, England, were able to compute the approximate rate of Germany's tank production—which apparently was significantly lower than German Nazi propagada suggested. After the war was over, it turned out that the British estimations were pretty close to the actual production numbers.

 

This wasn't the first time . In 1941 RV Jones estimated the Germans' total supply of Freya radar sets from four serial numbers found in Bletchley decrypts. At a time when about 50 Freya installations had been located he reckoned (his word was "guess") there were probably about 150 in all. (Most Secret War, chapter 23).

 

O1af, do you have a source that attributes the work on tank serial numbers specifically to "mathematicians at Bletchley Park", or were you generalising? I ask because obviously there was no code-breaking involved.

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O1af, do you have a source that attributes the work on tank serial numbers specifically to "mathematicians at Bletchley Park", or were you generalising?

I read about it years ago somewhere, and now I am memorising from the back of may head. So no, I'm sorry, no more detailed info or sources available from me. Anyway, the mathmatical principle behind this is very simple, and yes, there are definitely no code-breaking techniques involved.

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I guess the reason those serial numbers are not a normal batch of serial numbers from Leica is because Imacon was involved.

 

Nott since Leitz M3 did Leica have 100xxxx numbers.

 

Well, of course, lenses and cameras have separate serial number sets, so there was, for example:

 

a camera number 2466102 (M6ttl)

 

and a lens number 2466102 (c. 1971-72, type unkown)

 

Since a DMR is not a camera in and of itself, but instead something that attaches TO a camera (like a motor or lens), I'm not surprised they had their own serial number organization.

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