menos I M6 Posted November 10, 2011 Share #21  Posted November 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am actually in the detailed technical nitty gritty, what has been reason for the call back and redesign.  Can anybody point me to some technical facts (not just the change in outer Ø of the mount)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 10, 2011 Posted November 10, 2011 Hi menos I M6, Take a look here The new 21mm Elmar 3.4. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
mmradman Posted November 10, 2011 Share #22 Â Posted November 10, 2011 Not much... Â The design of Leica Super Elmar M 21mm f/3.4 ASPH lens was slightly changed | Leica News & Rumors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted November 10, 2011 Share #23  Posted November 10, 2011 GOT IT!  Two days ago I and my dealer were musing about when the revamped Super-Elmar 21mm might heave into view. We agreed that Sweden is not very high up on the Leica totem pole, and we were resigned to a date well into next year.  And today he phoned and told me that the lens and the finder had arrived! I did actually have lunch before I went downtown and collected the gear. It is a compact and lovely lens, it is tack sharp in the right place, i.e. where I focus it, and the new style finder is a great improvement on the old plastic style.  My dealer is Schönherrs Foto, Stockholm. And my manufacturer is Leica Camera AG.  The old man with his new toy ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted November 10, 2011 Share #24 Â Posted November 10, 2011 GOT IT!The old man with his new toy ... Â Great! Looking forward to seeing some of your images with this new lens!!! Â Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggele Posted November 10, 2011 Share #25 Â Posted November 10, 2011 GOT IT!The old man with his new toy ... Â Images of lens and viewer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 10, 2011 Share #26  Posted November 10, 2011 Excerpts of Leica's Technical data. The new one (right) is a drawing apparently. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/165829-the-new-21mm-elmar-34/?do=findComment&comment=1840638'>More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted November 11, 2011 Share #27  Posted November 11, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have read comment about the new, improved 21mm viewfinder - can anybody shed some light on this one?  I have recently acquired a much nicer 21mm lens, as the 21 Elmar ;-) … and am interested in different 21mm viewfinder options.  I do have the Leica Universal Frankenfinder, which is brilliant, when planning, to use wide lenses on different bodies (M8 and M9/ film) and having parallax correction as well.  It is more dim and has more distortion though, than the Konica 21/35 mm finder, that came with the lens. I like the Konica for it's brilliant view and fantastic eye point, but would be willing, to get yet a better finder, if available (more compact, while retaining 21mm low distortion, brilliance, high eye point and enough scene outside the frame, to anticipate).  Here is the one, I bought @ roughly the same price, as a new Elmar:  Untitled by teknopunk.com, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 11, 2011 Share #28  Posted November 11, 2011 ...I have recently acquired a much nicer 21mm lens, as the 21 Elmar... You mean the big thing on the right? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/165829-the-new-21mm-elmar-34/?do=findComment&comment=1840906'>More sharing options...
christer Posted November 11, 2011 Share #29  Posted November 11, 2011  ken rockwell invented a new word: piratical  ........and he uses old words in a new way. I adore it.  From his 11-11-11 posting: "I ..... waited patently." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted November 11, 2011 Share #30 Â Posted November 11, 2011 Close, but not precisely correct ;-) It's one of 800 Konica Hexanon Dual 21-35 f3.4-4 lenses - it is about the size of a 21 Elmarit ASPH. Â I am now falling in love with the 21mm focal length! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted November 11, 2011 Share #31 Â Posted November 11, 2011 ........and he uses old words in a new way. I adore it. Â From his 11-11-11 posting: "I ..... waited patently." Â Always good to see the "English" language being used creatively - and also to see the timely reminder that such properties as taking 39mm filters and having a nine-bladed diaphragm are highly significant in reaching an opinion of the real worth of a lens. We shouldn't even seem to sneer at young Mr Rockwell though; I think I'd be happy to support my wife and family through playing with some very nice toys and writing egregious reports about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted November 11, 2011 Share #32  Posted November 11, 2011 I haven't done anything but a basic checkout of the Super-Elmar-M 1:3.4/21mm ASPH (to give it its official name) because fog rests thick over Sweden. But it focuses where it should focus, it is practically as sharp in the plane of best focus at 3.4 as at 5.6 (stopping down will of course make the 'subject space' look sharper because of the increase of d.o.f.) and the lens is remarkably resistant to internal reflections, flare and irradiation.  The last term does not mean that it is immune against nuclear weapons. 'Irradiation' is the term for light 'eating away' at dark subject contours seen against a very bright background.  A note on the finder: It seems that the new style single-length accessory finders – or this one at least – have greater eye relief than the old plastic finders. This means that they are more useable by people who wear specs, at least as long as the lenses are reasonably thin. The dark outer field of the finder is less prone to intrude into the actual finder field with the bright line.  I think this is a winner.  The old man from the Super Angulon Age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 11, 2011 Share #33 Â Posted November 11, 2011 Interesting thanks. Any stiffness or rattling sound? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted November 11, 2011 Share #34 Â Posted November 11, 2011 Interesting thanks. Any stiffness or rattling sound? Not since I had a long, hot, relaxing bath, LCT, but thank you for enquiring. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 11, 2011 Share #35 Â Posted November 11, 2011 Lucky you. I did not know that the new lens was amphibious by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted November 11, 2011 Share #36 Â Posted November 11, 2011 Interesting thanks. Any stiffness or rattling sound? Â None at all. All fine and dandy. Â The old man from the Angular Age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted November 12, 2011 Share #37  Posted November 12, 2011 First Light  For your information, here is the second exposure I made in the Schönherr shop as we unpacked the Super-Elmar. We had just come to the payment part. The two frames below need no explanation.  The Super-Angular old man . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/165829-the-new-21mm-elmar-34/?do=findComment&comment=1841877'>More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 12, 2011 Share #38 Â Posted November 12, 2011 When is this puppy gonna be available? Â My dealer says: " I hope soon." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted November 14, 2011 Share #39  Posted November 14, 2011 I was lucky to get a 21 SE (1st selling version) without any problems at all. like steve huff probably would say: it’s a hell of a lens.  ... pretty compact 21mm Evolution | Flickr - Photo Sharing!  ... and amazingly sharp at f3.4 Super-Elmar-M 1:3,4/21 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted November 14, 2011 Share #40  Posted November 14, 2011 It takes a long time to count out 185 ¥100 notes. Perhaps someday China will realize that in a society based so heavily on cash transactions that it would be advantageous to have larger value notes. In China, for members who have not been, the largest denomination bill is the ¥100, which is worth about $15.75 USD or €11.50. It takes a long time to buy Leica cameras and lenses at that rate. For an M9 and lens you need a briefcase to carry the cash!!!!  As for viewfinders I love my Leica 12025, silver-chrome 21mm.   I have read comment about the new, improved 21mm viewfinder - can anybody shed some light on this one? I have recently acquired a much nicer 21mm lens, as the 21 Elmar ;-) … and am interested in different 21mm viewfinder options.  I do have the Leica Universal Frankenfinder, which is brilliant, when planning, to use wide lenses on different bodies (M8 and M9/ film) and having parallax correction as well.  It is more dim and has more distortion though, than the Konica 21/35 mm finder, that came with the lens. I like the Konica for it's brilliant view and fantastic eye point, but would be willing, to get yet a better finder, if available (more compact, while retaining 21mm low distortion, brilliance, high eye point and enough scene outside the frame, to anticipate).  Here is the one, I bought @ roughly the same price, as a new Elmar:  Untitled by teknopunk.com, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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