Guest stanjan0 Posted January 12, 2012 Share #81 Posted January 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) YEP:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted January 12, 2012 Share #82 Posted January 12, 2012 "A modified version II" ?? What exactelly are the modifications? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2012 Share #83 Posted January 12, 2012 In your "Version III" proclaiming reference article, Ashvin also maintains the existence of Version II (with the 49 mm filter) lenses in chrome. His is the first statement I read about. I think it is also flawed. I'd like to see a picture of such a thing. So would people at Leica, who have built them. Do you have any other proves for your Version III claim than this source of information, where chrome Version II appear? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billib Posted January 12, 2012 Share #84 Posted January 12, 2012 "A modified version II"?? What exactelly are the modifications? The MATE tended to flare at 50mm if the sun was shining into the lens so the version 2, as far as I can tell, later in its production had a coating applied to some of its internal surfaces. Possibly more but I haven't been able to find much, hence the version 3. The Leica MATE Lens Review (Medium Angle Tri-Elmar) by Ashwin Rao | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billib Posted January 12, 2012 Share #85 Posted January 12, 2012 Ashvin mentiones Version II in chrome.His is the first statement I read about. I'd like to see a picture of such a thing. I'd like to see that as well but it looks like the last of the silver was 1999, version 1. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/28mm-35mm-50mm_f/4_ASPH_Tri-Elmar-M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billib Posted January 12, 2012 Share #86 Posted January 12, 2012 Our very own "L-Camera Forum" has an L-Camera leica Wiki. The L-Cameras' wiki on the 28-35-50 Mate says something I find fascinating. You may as well. The very first line starts off with "Leica Order No" it states "Leica Order No - 11 890 (1st)- 11 625 (2nd + 3rd) etc., etc., etc. What do you think L-Camera means by 1st, 2nd + 3rd???? http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/28mm-35mm-50mm_f/4_ASPH_Tri-Elmar-M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted January 12, 2012 Share #87 Posted January 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) First version was the E55 black. It was followed by the E55 in silver - of which they made only 500. Both have the same mount. After these came the E49 where the mechanics were improved, it also added a focusing tab for improved ergonomics and the distance scale got DOF markings. The optical cell is identical for all of them. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 12, 2012 Share #88 Posted January 12, 2012 It is a tall 'ask', especially for younger members of the retail profession who rarely have any real personal experience of Leica equipment. Heck, most of them have no point of reference except for their iPhone which is in their hand instead of in their pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billib Posted January 12, 2012 Share #89 Posted January 12, 2012 Heck, most of them have no point of reference except for their iPhone which is in their hand instead of in their pocket.Yah…….unless he/she used their iPhone to accessthe L-Camera LeicaWiki page for their info. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/163884-should-i-sell-my-mate/?do=findComment&comment=1896443'>More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted February 15, 2012 Share #90 Posted February 15, 2012 Mr. Edwin Puts the foremost Leica authority, states that there only 2 versions. Just because there are two different type sun visors on the E49MM version doesn't make the Mate a different version but, makes the visor a different type. I hope I explained that correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billib Posted February 15, 2012 Share #91 Posted February 15, 2012 Your absolutely right. Leica only made a MATE using two different catalog numbers. The first version with 55mm filter threads and the second version with 49 mm filter threads. The problem is, Leica made slight modifications to the MATE version two. Leica didn't bother using a new catalog number because the modifications were internal and minor. The lens appeared identical to the unmodified one. Why confuse us with a third catalog number? Well, collectors (and others) notice these differences and have been differentiating the two version two's by calling the modified version two a version three. Is it a version three? No. Its a modified version two. However, whenever a MATE is referred to as a version three I know they are referring to a modified version two. I guess from now till eternity the modified version two may be called by some a version three. I haven't lost any sleep over it. Especially since I now know what its all about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanetomlane Posted February 16, 2012 Share #92 Posted February 16, 2012 I WOULD NOT sell it. To me it's a great lens, especially for traveling. I have 24, 28, 35, 50, 75, 90 & 135 primes but when I travel (for business with a little photography thrown in) all I take is the MATE and WATE. Admittedly there're not fast lens but are great for general photography. If I travel just for photography then I take the full bag of glass. ___________________________ Regards, Tom Photography by Tom Lane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted February 16, 2012 Share #93 Posted February 16, 2012 I WOULD NOT sell it. To me it's a great lens, especially for traveling. I have 24, 28, 35, 50, 75, 90 & 135 primes but when I travel (for business with a little photography thrown in) all I take is the MATE and WATE. Admittedly there're not fast lens but are great for general photography. If I travel just for photography then I take the full bag of glass. +1 I couldn't agree more. The MATE and the WATE are the first lenses into my bag when I'm traveling. I've recently returned from a 3 week trip to India, the MATE was invaluable on this trip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 16, 2012 Share #94 Posted February 16, 2012 A definite NO! I still regret selling mine in a moment of aberration.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freusen Posted February 16, 2012 Share #95 Posted February 16, 2012 I sold mine a few years ago and never looked back! ____________ FrankR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted February 16, 2012 Share #96 Posted February 16, 2012 Well, even the dutch are completely different. Best regards GEORG _______________ One more vote to keep the lens, btw. ____________________________________ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 16, 2012 Share #97 Posted February 16, 2012 ...The problem is, Leica made slight modifications tothe MATE version two. Leica didn't bother using a new catalog number because the modifications were internal and minor. The lens appeared identical to the unmodified one. Why confuse us with a third catalog number?... I doubt those slight modifications for the following reason: According to the Wiki, those modifications apply to the version two MATE after Serial no. 3507154. Now, I bought my version two MATE 11 years ago, just after the version two was released, and my MATE has serial no. 389xxxx! There simply is no version two MATE with a serial no. anywhere near 350xxxx. People who own the version one MATE may check their serial no., I even doubt those to be near 350xxxx, as the version one was only produced for about two years. Cheers, Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billib Posted February 16, 2012 Share #98 Posted February 16, 2012 I'm convinced the serial number stated in our L-Camera wiki is incorrect. The serial number for you lens helps prove that. Believe whatever you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freusen Posted February 16, 2012 Share #99 Posted February 16, 2012 Well, even the dutch are completely different. Even the dutch are human beings. ____________ FrankR Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/163884-should-i-sell-my-mate/?do=findComment&comment=1928316'>More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 16, 2012 Share #100 Posted February 16, 2012 Believe whatever you like. I have always believed what I like. Why should I believe something I don't like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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