smb Posted August 25, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am in a quandry. My significant other thinks that I should purchase an M7 .58 while I think that we should wait and purchase an M9. We already have 2 M6s plus an M6ttl .85. Should we wait and go for the M9? Is the M7 surpluruous? (She is open to advice.) How much computer technology will we need to add? Will we need a separate computer system just for our photography? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NB23 Posted August 25, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 25, 2011 Dude, sell those ZINC M6 cameras (what a disgrace) and buy a M7 and a M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted August 25, 2011 Share #3 Posted August 25, 2011 I am in a quandry. My significant other thinks that I should purchase an M7 .58 while I think that we should wait and purchase an M9. We already have 2 M6s plus an M6ttl .85.Should we wait and go for the M9? Is the M7 surpluruous? (She is open to advice.) How much computer technology will we need to add? Will we need a separate computer system just for our photography? Sell an M6 to fund the M9, which of course has AE like the M7 - not that you need to use it. You will not need a separate computer to process our M9 files (shoot RAW for the best results). I have 2 M7s (0.85 and 0.58, I prefer the former) and an M9 but use the latter 95% of the time. You will love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucklik Posted August 25, 2011 Share #4 Posted August 25, 2011 Last year I had THE money for à M9 I bought a Dlux 5 and P****x K5 in stead. For my my personal work I keep using my M6&7's. For me film is more fun. Don't underestimate the costs of digital you need a decent computer, and some hard-discs to make backups. Within a few years your M9 will be 'old' while your M6 & 7's will still be the state of the art for film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 25, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 25, 2011 The M7 is a film camera. The M9 is a digital camera. That should be the end of the discussion. If you love film, for some reason, and already own two M6 cameras, what do you need a M7 for? I used film for half a century. I had the cameras, I had a darkroom, and I learned to make exhibition grade prints. During the years around the millennium shift, I also ran a film scanner. Now I own a M9 and a medium grade computer, and a M4P I keep for nostalgic reasons but never use. No darkroom and no scanner. Do I feel deprived? No. Fifty years in the darkroom is enough. Now I am a free man. Proletarians of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your darkroom lamp. You have a world to gain. The old man from the Wet Dark Room Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 25, 2011 Share #6 Posted August 25, 2011 I never thought I'd buy a digital camera. I used them at work anyway. Then retired. I have two M7s, and got an M9 because, in my opinion, for my purposes, the M9 has liberated me to do color as I never had before. COLOR! The additional computer burden? LIghtroom is given away with new M9 cameras. You already have a computer. That's about all you need. I don't do my own digital color printing because I get so few keepers that I hire it out (16x20"). Instead of buying film you can pop for a couple 16gb SD cards that will hold about 800 pictures each. M9, M9, M9! The quality of the image astounded me. I still shoot MF and LF film if I need something more - which is quite rare lately. The darkroom is becoming a storage room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted August 25, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) What utter and complete rubbish. Color from Portra film far, far supersedes the artificial colors generated by software interpolating the red-green-blue Bayer array in a digital sensor. And there's no need to do your own developing, for that matter. All this hot air about darkrooms - the only time I've stood in a darkroom was when I was at university - and it was pretty cool for the couple times I tried it. Otherwise I let a pro lab develop my films - and they do a great job. Sounds to me like you have no need whatsoever for yet another film camera, either. If you feel you want to buy a digital camera then go right ahead and do so. But it sounds more like a consumerist itch than a real need. I'd go on a vacation instead - and use the cameras I already own to record the event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootinglulu Posted August 25, 2011 Share #8 Posted August 25, 2011 If I was educated in the use of film I would be using it over digital. To me it is simply gorgeous.. very nice colour film work cannot be replaced by digital imho, obviously b+w too..and medium format film work turns me to jelly like Dianne Arbus' work at the Tate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 25, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 25, 2011 I can't believe we're still having this tired old film/digital debate. Darkrooms rubbish? Computers rubbish? Cameras rubbish? All of these things are just tools. And, like any tool, the person using it makes all the difference. I spent many decades in the film world (yes, 4 darkrooms), and still working on my first decade in the digital world. The constant is that I control the entire process from camera to print. No lab can do what I can do... quicker, more cost effectively and most importantly, better. Beyond getting the shot, the print is all that matters to me; the rest is just a process with a bunch of tools. There are advantages and disadvantages to each process. But, with lots of learning and hard work, the results using either can be superb...or not...depending on you. So decide if you want to stay with film and either switch to or add digital to the mix. The rest is just choosing the tools that meet your requirements and preferences. Only you can decide. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prunelle Posted August 25, 2011 Share #10 Posted August 25, 2011 I am in a quandry. My significant other thinks that I should purchase an M7 .58 while I think that we should wait and purchase an M9. We already have 2 M6s plus an M6ttl .85.Should we wait and go for the M9? Is the M7 surpluruous? (She is open to advice.) How much computer technology will we need to add? Will we need a separate computer system just for our photography? Would you lose your "significant other" if you simply said "no!"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 25, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 25, 2011 Presumably they would become your Insignificant Other... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinkgräve Posted August 25, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 25, 2011 Cams have a short life span compared to pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 25, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 25, 2011 You should listen your significant other more carefully. He/she wants a 0.58x camera to shoot wides i guess. Is is true? If so, not sure if the 0.68x M9 will be wide enough for him/her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smb Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted August 25, 2011 To the question about the significan other: No. She is inquiring about this also. I do not want this question to degerate into a film v. digital. As far as I understand the comments the M7 would be excess. We will punt at this juncture and put our name on a waiting list for a 50mm Summilux ASPH instead. If the M9 is in our future the Summilux would be the perfect match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prunelle Posted August 25, 2011 Share #15 Posted August 25, 2011 You should listen your significant other more carefully. He/she wants a 0.58x camera to shoot wides i guess. Is is true? If so, not sure if the 0.68x M9 will be wide enough for him/her. My M3, used with a 50-90-135mm lens, has a viewfinder magnification of 0.92! (http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/196685-leica-m3.html#post1806042) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 25, 2011 Share #16 Posted August 25, 2011 Is the M7 surpluruous? Sounds like you've been drinking? When you've sobered up think again. What do you want the M7 to do which your M6's don't? Same question for the M9. If you had (have) a real need then the answer should be obvious. If you've got GAS then I suggest doing nothing, or if you can't do that, just tossing a coin as it really doesn't matter what you buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 25, 2011 Share #17 Posted August 25, 2011 My M3, used with a 50-90-135mm lens, has a viewfinder magnification of 0.92! (http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/196685-leica-m3.html#post1806042) Hehe i know this Anne i have one as well. Mine is a double stroke M3 but i don't use it any more i'm afraid. 100% digital now and i prefer the 1:1 viewfinder of the Epson R-D1. Les goûts et les couleurs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted August 25, 2011 Share #18 Posted August 25, 2011 ...I'd go on a vacation instead - and use the cameras I already own to record the event. I like the sound of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted August 25, 2011 Share #19 Posted August 25, 2011 Well if you have decided on the M9 then a M7 is a good companion. Besides the shutter speed dial working the same, the M7 also has aperture priority, and functions the same way as the M9. If the M9 is not a given, then what you have is excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 26, 2011 Share #20 Posted August 26, 2011 What utter and complete rubbish. Color from Portra film far, far supersedes the artificial colors generated by software interpolating the red-green-blue Bayer array in a digital sensor. Portra is interpretated, too, by its very emulsion response. To show your Portra here is futile due to the digital media. And there's no need to do your own developing, for that matter. All this hot air about darkrooms - the only time I've stood in a darkroom was when I was at university - and it was pretty cool for the couple times I tried it. Otherwise I let a pro lab develop my films - and they do a great job. I suspect that due to your severely limited experience in B&W wet processing your judgment is limited. Perhaps you are easily satisfied with lab prints where the experienced practitioners are not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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