Stealth3kpl Posted August 23, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 23, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Look what's just happened! All my vulcanite has flaked off. Question is, what to do? I don't want to stick the flakes back on. Do you think light sealing will be affected? Pete Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160009-oh-no/?do=findComment&comment=1772954'>More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted August 23, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 23, 2011 For light leaks use the Tiger Balm . No there will be no light leaks. Either have it restored completely by Malcolm Taylor or remove the rest and replace by Cameraleather "Vulcanite". Or use as-is of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted August 23, 2011 For light leaks use the Tiger Balm . LOL Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted August 23, 2011 Share #4 Posted August 23, 2011 Too late now, but I apply McGuires Rubber and vinyl conditioner found at the auto supply store. Works well on cars too. Vulcanite is rubber that is vulcanised onto the camera. It is a heat process. The rubber deteriorates with time from O three in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoferat Posted August 23, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 23, 2011 there`s a crack in everything. thats how the light comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 24, 2011 Share #6 Posted August 24, 2011 I dropped an M4-2 about 8 years ago and the vulcanite flew like shrapnel (didn't do the RF adjustment any good either ). I had the RF fixed and just put black tape over the missing vulcanite areas to prevent further chipping/peeling at the edges. Used it that way for 5-6 years, and finally had it recovered with M6-style vinyl by Leica (as well as a general CLA) in order to put it up for sale. The only way you might get a light leak is if the vulcanite falls off around a hole in the body (where the shaft of the "R" lever goes through, for example) leaving a gap. I had a totally different M4-2 back in the 80's that leaked light around the "R" lever due to the shaft being too long, meaning the lever was a mm away from the body instead of flush (and no self-timer inside to block the light). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted August 24, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The camera is what, fifty years old, of course the vulcanite is going to flake! After that many years of exposure to ultraviolet light, ozone and any number of other factors that affect the elasticity of the vulcanite at some point it's going to fail! Either send it to Cameraleather for a new covering or find someone that will do a CLA and new covering at the same time. Better yet use it until all of the vulcanite is off and people will see a photographer getting the most out of their equipment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted August 24, 2011 Share #8 Posted August 24, 2011 So make a call to cameraleather.com or Aki Asahi. Case closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan Posted August 24, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 24, 2011 The camera is what, fifty years old, of course the vulcanite is going to flake! After that many years of exposure to ultraviolet light, ozone and any number of other factors that affect the elasticity of the vulcanite at some point it's going to fail! Either send it to Cameraleather for a new covering or find someone that will do a CLA and new covering at the same time. Better yet use it until all of the vulcanite is off and people will see a photographer getting the most out of their equipment. Since when does one consider beat up gear = well used? I consider it improper use if your equipment looks like crap. This goes for people that take sandpaper to their black paint Leica's... you know who you are If i were you, i would DIY. Cameraleather sells what you need, order it (wait 4-6 month) and replace it yourself. A well used camera doesn't need to look like crap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sterlinstarlin Posted August 24, 2011 Share #10 Posted August 24, 2011 Don't fret... soon it will look like Henry Wessel's M2. You can fast forward to about 2 minutes and 45 seconds: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 24, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 24, 2011 In this context "well-used" means "extensively used," not necessarily "carefully used." If you're diving into foxholes with a Nikon F and M3D clanking together - stuff happens: David Douglas Duncan BTW - since David Douglas Duncan is one of the TWO people for whom Leica built cameras to personal specs, with his initial on the cameras (the other being Alfred Eisenstadt, for whom they built the M3Es), I hope you don't consider his approach to equipment "improper." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan Posted August 25, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 25, 2011 In this context "well-used" means "extensively used," not necessarily "carefully used." If you're diving into foxholes with a Nikon F and M3D clanking together - stuff happens: David Douglas Duncan BTW - since David Douglas Duncan is one of the TWO people for whom Leica built cameras to personal specs, with his initial on the cameras (the other being Alfred Eisenstadt, for whom they built the M3Es), I hope you don't consider his approach to equipment "improper." Some scars are worth mentioning: ie bullet scar from being shot, or a cut scar from being stab... jumping into a foxhole... sand from Iraq... Some arne't...ie... taking sandpaper to your black paint... bumping it against the corner of the door frame... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted August 25, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 25, 2011 I am sure that this photo has been posted before, but it shows real use and a few scars. Photo taken from "Leica M - How revolutionary should your camera be?" I wish mine was painted brass instead of black chrome. We know what those look like in a few years. I would rather it look like the one pictured here. Wayne Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160009-oh-no/?do=findComment&comment=1774712'>More sharing options...
Ronan Posted August 25, 2011 Share #14 Posted August 25, 2011 I am sure that this photo has been posted before, but it shows real use and a few scars. Photo taken from "Leica M - How revolutionary should your camera be?" I wish mine was painted brass instead of black chrome. We know what those look like in a few years. I would rather it look like the one pictured here. Wayne Yes it's been posted, and reposted and rereposted My point stands. If your camera looks like that, i hope it's because its been well used. Not because of sandpaper or abusive usage. Some people simply try too hard... Yesterday i saw a Nikon F3 at a gentleman's house that had almost no black paint left. Why? Because he used it everyday for his photojournalism work for a couple very long years. THAT'S beautiful. The news press bought him 2 new one's, one for work and one as a reward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 26, 2011 Share #15 Posted August 26, 2011 Since when does one consider beat up gear = well used? I consider it improper use if your equipment looks like crap. You haven't been running through hell with a couple cameras banging together. I know that because you are still alive, and woosy-fussy. But you won't be alive forever. So may your pristine Leicas enjoy an infinite life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
businessasusual Posted August 26, 2011 Share #16 Posted August 26, 2011 You haven't been running through hell with a couple cameras banging together. I know that because you are still alive, and woosy-fussy. LOL - Pico - take a look at the book titles! Stealth3kp might be one to dangle off mountains in rough wilderness. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted August 26, 2011 Author Share #17 Posted August 26, 2011 I've not much time for one Leica never mind 2 on these things: https://picasaweb.google.com/100975167704112241520/IceClimbingCanadaColoradoNorwayScannedSlides#5134694376243643410 I leave the camera at the bottom Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
businessasusual Posted August 26, 2011 Share #18 Posted August 26, 2011 I've not much time for one Leica never mind 2 on these things:https://picasaweb.google.com/100975167704112241520/IceClimbingCanadaColoradoNorwayScannedSlides#5134694376243643410 I leave the camera at the bottom Pete OMG - you ARE serious. I've broken out in cold sweat just looking at that. (and not joking, palms dripping on keyboard, hectic!) :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpenhow Posted September 5, 2011 Share #19 Posted September 5, 2011 Your bookshelf looks just like mine, except that I have an R5 sitting there. If the camera works, that is the main thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiZZ Posted September 5, 2011 Share #20 Posted September 5, 2011 Only men would go from "mine is bigger" to "mine is used more". I think that's a better brag, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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