Val Posted July 27, 2011 Share #1 Posted July 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yesterday I've trade in my 35 Cron Asph for the 28 Cron Asph and i'm pleased with my new lens. Is it just me or seams that every shot I take looks more"dynamic in situations were the 35 will render a "static" shot. Love the vigneting at f2 and the nice "leica feel" that the lens gives to the pictures. From your experience at what aperture this lens shows it's most performance. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hx911 Posted July 27, 2011 Share #2 Posted July 27, 2011 Interesting to hear. I love the 28 ASPH, especially on the M8, and felt that it is too wide on the M9. Looking for a 35 that has the same feel (35 Summicon ASPH?) - well, after your comments, I feel, it does not exist. The 28 performs for me at any aperture, maybe it's just me, but I feel this lens is special! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albireo_double Posted July 27, 2011 Share #3 Posted July 27, 2011 My copy of the 28 Cron asph, bought second hand, gave me a pronounced red edge effect on my M9, especially with the lens wide open which was otherwise my favourite aperture setting. I sold it and now I am using a 35 Cron Asph and a 24 Elmarit asph - negligible red edge with the former, absolutely none with the latter. I agree the 28 is otherwise great at any aperture - I recommend you try it wide open for some really interesting shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 27, 2011 Share #4 Posted July 27, 2011 Val, I agree with you about the lens. I also love my new Summicron 28 ASPH. Vitreuphilia perhaps:D These were taken a few days ago when we out of Sydney for the weekend: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/landscape-travel/192886-ocean-rock-plateau-terrigal.html http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/landscape-travel/192885-scenes-beachside-promenade.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted July 27, 2011 Share #5 Posted July 27, 2011 Looking for a 35 that has the same feel (35 Summicon ASPH?) - well, after your comments, I feel, it does not exist. The 35 Summilux ASPH (either version) seems to me to be close to the 'look' of the 28 Summicron - more so than the 35 Summicron ASPH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted July 27, 2011 My copy of the 28 Cron asph, bought second hand, gave me a pronounced red edge effect on my M9, especially with the lens wide open which was otherwise my favourite aperture setting. I sold it and now I am using a 35 Cron Asph and a 24 Elmarit asph - negligible red edge with the former, absolutely none with the latter. I agree the 28 is otherwise great at any aperture - I recommend you try it wide open for some really interesting shots. I didn't see any red edge on mine. Some vigneting at f2 yes but I like it What firmware did you had at that time? Must be that the new firware improves the images at wide open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pum pum Posted July 27, 2011 Share #7 Posted July 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I also love my 28cron and i like 28 + 50 + 90 combo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted July 27, 2011 Share #8 Posted July 27, 2011 I'm with Ian on this; I have both the 35 Lux and 28 Cron--and they have more than a passing family resemblance, though truth to tell the 35 seems to have less vignette and a bit more contrast at f2 (I had to re-buy a 28 after I sold my first one, stupidly thinking I could make do with the 35 only on the M9 ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted July 27, 2011 Share #9 Posted July 27, 2011 From your experience at what aperture this lens shows it's most performance. ... One might say that two stops down from maximum aperture will give you the optimum aperture - though this is just one of these rules of thumb. I'd say that the 28mm Summicron is best at f/2.8 but not really worse at f/2.0. You may have less vignetting with smaller apertures but to avoid vignetting it's better to look after good exposure in the corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbonthemoon Posted July 27, 2011 Share #10 Posted July 27, 2011 hmm, actually I was quite often disappointed by "ordinary" look of 35 summicron asph photos on M9, comparing to these from 50 lux. But I was blaming myself Maybe I should try the 28 cron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted July 27, 2011 Tanks for input and nice pictures above. What I have noticed is this lens paints a painting. Like an artist who knows what his going to paint and starts with an ebauche in which the canvas has a tonality, the same this lens lays down an ebauche on which imposes the final image. The colors are warm, they blend in nicely, no sharp contours. Very smooth and artistic. Almost like a watercolour. The 35 is more exact, precise, sharp lines and colour borders. Is super fine but much to common. Too clinical for my taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted July 27, 2011 Share #12 Posted July 27, 2011 I have read good things about the Cron 28mm. I wonder how much of an impediment is presented by the lens and hood blockage of the viewfinder? Or is it a non-issue and you simply get used to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted July 27, 2011 Share #13 Posted July 27, 2011 I have read good things about the Cron 28mm. I wonder how much of an impediment is presented by the lens and hood blockage of the viewfinder? Or is it a non-issue and you simply get used to it? It's a total non-issue to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted July 27, 2011 Not an issue to either. I ussualy shot using my right eye but I keep both open to see the whole scene and what might get into my frame. But by the time I lift the camera I have the composition in my head. Acctualy the hood being so big helps because gives you some bearings of framing. I can hold down the camera, appreciate the distance, and after the big rentagle hood orientation I know what I' getting. Is fun. Great for street shoting. Nobody notice that you just took one picture. The cut in the hood helps a bit. You can see if tha cap is on or not. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 27, 2011 Share #15 Posted July 27, 2011 I have read good things about the Cron 28mm. I wonder how much of an impediment is presented by the lens and hood blockage of the viewfinder? Or is it a non-issue and you simply get used to it? Recently replaced the current 28 Elmarit for the 28 Summicron. The small amount of finder blockage doesn't bother me at all. I agree with the comments about the current 35 Summilux ASPH (which I also have and love - polyvitreuphilia) being more 'accurate' and perhaps 'clinical' in it's rendering, but not in a pejorative sense, just different. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted July 27, 2011 Share #16 Posted July 27, 2011 I have read good things about the Cron 28mm. I wonder how much of an impediment is presented by the lens and hood blockage of the viewfinder? Or is it a non-issue and you simply get used to it? An alternative to the rather large 28mm Summicron hood is to use the one that came with the ASPH 35mm Summilux (not the later FLE version). The part number for the hood is 12589 and the cap is 14040. When mounting the hood on the lens don't squeeze the release tabs too hard, it tends to flex the rear of the hood making it a tight fit. The hood has a locking ring which prevents it from being lost. There is no vignetting with the smaller hood. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 28, 2011 Share #17 Posted July 28, 2011 I think there is a big problem in using the 35mm Summilux hood on the 28mm Summicron. The standard hood leaves a gap between the aperture ring and the hood, but the Summilux hood butts right against the aperture ring and is the same diameter, so making it difficult to quickly adjust if you are a street shooter, wearing gloves, etc. So while the Summilux hood gets 8/10 for size and looks it gets 3/10 for functionality in certain situations. I have gone back to using the standard hood which never bothered me much anyway. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted July 28, 2011 Share #18 Posted July 28, 2011 The 28 summicron ASPH in my book is one of the best lenses ever made, indeed it paints pictures. example:L1014104 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! This admittedly on the M8, but it works fine on my M2 as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm Posted July 28, 2011 Share #19 Posted July 28, 2011 I have read good things about the Cron 28mm. I wonder how much of an impediment is presented by the lens and hood blockage of the viewfinder? Or is it a non-issue and you simply get used to it? See also this thread: Leica 12589 vs 12466 replacement hood for 35 Lux ASPH old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted July 29, 2011 Share #20 Posted July 29, 2011 but the Summilux hood butts right against the aperture ring and is the same diameter, It is true that the presence of the Summilux hood does make adjusting the aperture ring a bit more awkward than it might otherwise be (though I'd never noticed it until you mentioned it) but they don't butt up against each other on my lens (there is a 3mm or so gap between the aperture ring and the hood when the latter is fully seated). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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