adan Posted July 15, 2006 Share #1 Posted July 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) We'll see just how close I got in 8 weeks: Of course, anyone can sketch out an idea for anything. However, here's what I came up with TWO YEARS before Leica announced the creation of the 75mm APO (note date on original posting). http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004jpi Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1572-exercise-in-industrial-design/?do=findComment&comment=13487'>More sharing options...
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adan Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share #2 Posted July 15, 2006 Detail of top plate: exposure compensation, framing rate, shots remaining Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1572-exercise-in-industrial-design/?do=findComment&comment=13488'>More sharing options...
adan Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share #3 Posted July 15, 2006 Battery compartment in bottom... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1572-exercise-in-industrial-design/?do=findComment&comment=13489'>More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 15, 2006 Share #4 Posted July 15, 2006 Well for a start I expect it to have a faster flash sync than 1/50, but as a boys own airfix kit I guess it'll do ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share #5 Posted July 15, 2006 Do-oh! The detail 'shot' fixes that, Steve. Always preferred Airfix to the US model companies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted July 15, 2006 Share #6 Posted July 15, 2006 I dislike the "Crazy Color"-Mode of your display, Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted July 15, 2006 Share #7 Posted July 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Andy, I really like your ideas and presentation. I would move the tab for the EV to the front for index finger access, similar to the meter mode adjustment on the R bodies. Also it would be nice if the shutter speed dial had a raised knurled rim for the same reason (also from the R bodies). If they have a one button easy custom WB, yuo'll need to add a button somewhere. I wonder if Leica will follow their tactile control identification and make the buttons feel differently. It will be fun to see how close you got. Oh, and I agree that Airfix make a good kit. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share #8 Posted July 15, 2006 Bob: Overhanging EV lever on the front is a good idea, although some may prefer adjustment via the shutter itself. Can't please everyone, I guess. Probably should have a lock button as well. My Sony R1, which has no analog shutter/aperture controls (bleaahh!), does at least link EV +/- control to the vertical thumbwheel on the back, which makes it the most accesible and easiest-to-use EV control I've run across. Steve - what I REALLY left out, I just noticed, is the AUTO setting on the shutter dial (double do-ooh!). Ah, well - at least I don't have to go back and retrofit 5,000 cameras! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris_h Posted July 15, 2006 Share #9 Posted July 15, 2006 "My Sony R1, which has no analog shutter/aperture controls (bleaahh!), does at least link EV +/- control to the vertical thumbwheel on the back, which makes it the most accesible and easiest-to-use EV control I've run across." Is this not the normal way to do design, to build cameras today ...?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 15, 2006 Share #10 Posted July 15, 2006 Interesting! I wonder how many Leica people are choking on their cornflakes this morning.... Sadly no viewfinder magnification lever though! C'mon Andy, how about a front view, without lens mounted? The metering pattern, the lens coding sensor, the red dot, the name, the viewfinder windows, any levers on the camera front? Perhaps you should post over on rangefinderforum.com, we know Dr Andreas Kaufmann keeps an eye on that board! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 15, 2006 Share #11 Posted July 15, 2006 ...Is this not the normal way to do design, to build cameras today ...?! Normal perhaps but mandatory, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted July 15, 2006 Share #12 Posted July 15, 2006 There is room for the Leica script in the middle-left space. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted July 15, 2006 Share #13 Posted July 15, 2006 Bob: Overhanging EV lever on the front is a good idea, although some may prefer adjustment via the shutter itself. Can't please everyone, I guess. Probably should have a lock button as well. My Sony R1, which has no analog shutter/aperture controls (bleaahh!), does at least link EV +/- control to the vertical thumbwheel on the back, which makes it the most accesible and easiest-to-use EV control I've run across. Steve - what I REALLY left out, I just noticed, is the AUTO setting on the shutter dial (double do-ooh!). Ah, well - at least I don't have to go back and retrofit 5,000 cameras! Andy, The lock buttons on some Pro cameras can slow things down, but help keep your settings tamper proof. On the E-1, you can program one of the control dials to do EV adjustment, which I have done. Since you have left off the Auto mark, maybe your picture is the digital M6TTL.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 15, 2006 Share #14 Posted July 15, 2006 Battery compartment in bottom... Looks great apart from this detail - hinges look raised and fragile, also means the camera wouldn't stand on its base (when no tripod etc). 8/10 well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddh Posted July 15, 2006 Share #15 Posted July 15, 2006 Dear Mr Designer, I would have two requests (suggestions). Could you make the left selector slanted like on the M7 ? Also, we don't have a front view of the camera but I will assume that the ranggefinder has the same width as on other M. Since there is no more pickup spool or mechanical hindrance, would it be feasible and benificial to widen the rangefinder and make it even more precise and easy to use ? Thank You for your efforts. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 15, 2006 Share #16 Posted July 15, 2006 ...would it be feasible and benificial to widen the rangefinder... Beneficial yes but feasible no i'm afraid otherwise we could not use old and new M lenses with goggles like 35/2.8, 35/2, 90/4, 135/2.8... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddh Posted July 16, 2006 Share #17 Posted July 16, 2006 Goggles ????????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris_h Posted July 16, 2006 Share #18 Posted July 16, 2006 "Also, we don't have a front view of the camera but I will assume that the ranggefinder has the same width as on other M. Since there is no more pickup spool or mechanical hindrance, would it be feasible and benificial to widen the rangefinder and make it even more precise and easy to use ?" HÄRESIE ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share #19 Posted July 16, 2006 Daniel: Goggles!!! http://www.schouten-select.org/Pictures/Items_site/135mm2151846_3.jpg and more goggles... http://www.leica-camera.com/produkte/msystem/objektive/makro/index_e.html ...plus, the viewfinder/rangefinder unit contains about 100 parts. Using the same unit as in the film cameras saves on parts inventory, speeds development, and helps keep the cost and price down. I'm sure Dr. Spichtig is willing to commit "heresy" if needed to save the company - but in this case using the existing RF/VF makes sense for many reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 16, 2006 Share #20 Posted July 16, 2006 I prepared to bet that one change at least will be a built in diopter adjustment :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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