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Geez, and here I've always been told Leica M's were ONLY for the old dinosaurs....;)

 

Personally, split-image focusing is easier for my aging eyes (no focus accomodation left A-tall!) than using any kind of screen. And I just don't have the time to be supervising an AF system.

 

Jeff, see if you can hold out for the - whatever it is - planned for 9/2012.

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And this is the reason a little focus confirmation LED, linked to the existing RF mechanism, would be useful for us old codgers:rolleyes:

 

 

you'll be wanting a motor on the focus next :D

 

I put a split image focus screen in my F90, so as to go back to 'rangefinder' focussing :p

 

Gerry

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Ha Ha Does this mean Jaap, that you, one of Leica's greatest supporters are having similar problems.

 

Jeff

Not yet - but time marches on.:o Ask me in five or ten years time.
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Lots of us have this problem. I too find my left eye better now, but switching eye for focus isn't easy after all these years. Since I can't always see optimum focus point, I've gone to the "groundglass" method of rocking to detectable off-focus both ways and then pick the middle. Had to adapt many things with age!

With age I've also found I can't switch back and forth from auto settings to manual. Automatics need over-ride in too many situations, and then you have to remember how. If I use auto settings for a while I lose my routine for manual. So I've learned I'm happier with all manual controls: which is why I got the M9, as I can use it just like an M6. Likewise I've put my R4 on the shelf and have gone back to my SL.

I suppose in another few years I'll need to tape a list of steps on the back of the camera; if I can remember to look at it!

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Lots of us have this problem. I too find my left eye better now, but switching eye for focus isn't easy after all these years.

 

Ah, you need Pico's M Camera Inverter. Hold the camera upside-down with the appropriate grip with remote release on top. :eek:

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Ah, you need Pico's M Camera Inverter. Hold the camera upside-down with the appropriate grip with remote release on top. :eek:

 

Sounds like the old "Stereo Realist" that had the rangefinder/viewfinder at the bottom edge, so you braced the camera against your forehead. I used one around 1964, and still have it someplace.

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When my cataracts reached the point where the right eye became unusable, I found it hard to switch to the my relatively-good left eye, so I bought a second-hand Digilux 3. Since it was new to me, my hands had no preconception of how to hold it, so I found it easy to use it with the left eye.

 

After some months of using the Digilux 3, I picked up my M8.2 and to my surprise found that I could see the frames and rangefinder spot. A few moments later I realised that my ‘reprogrammed’ hands had lifted it into position with the eyepiece in front of my left eye.

 

Jeff, I’d suggest that you persevere with trying to use your left eye, and give your brain and hands time to adapt to the new way of working.

 

Best regards,

 

Doug

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Not always is getting older doom and gloom.

 

First, I have much more time to photograph than I did when the kids were underfoot, and have the money to travel to nicer places (the requirement of visiting the sets of parents with the kids every year no longer prevails).

 

Second, while I now have progressive lenses, after a visit to the Eye Doc today, my prescription changed strongly to the better over the last two years. Can't say I expect this every year. My right eye went from -1.5 to -0.5, so tonight I will test the M9 without the corrective diopter. And here I thought my eyes were just tired :D

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Geez, and here I've always been told Leica M's were ONLY for the old dinosaurs....;)

 

Personally, split-image focusing is easier for my aging eyes (no focus accomodation left A-tall!) than using any kind of screen. And I just don't have the time to be supervising an AF system.

 

Jeff, see if you can hold out for the - whatever it is - planned for 9/2012.

 

Andy, I dont plan on abandoning my M cameras/lenses any time soon and up until now i've been in the camp which basically says 'everything is fine with the digital M – change nothing, keep it simple'. But the new Panasonic and Olympus micro 4/3 cameras have got me thinking.

 

The other thing is that I dont actually completely trust the Leica cam and roller system. On film I'm sure it is OK, but the M9 is much more demanding.

 

Jeff

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The other thing is that I dont actually completely trust the Leica cam and roller system. On film I'm sure it is OK, but the M9 is much more demanding.

 

Jeff

 

I'm encouraged by the M9's mechanism. True, my 60s-70s lenses tend to front focus a bit on my M9, but my 4 new CV lenses are spot-on with the M9, as is my '48 Summitar. That suggests the issues are more with the way film lenses were calibrated during that period. So I keep those lenses on my film Ms, and all is well.

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I that ease you Delander, I'm 72 and hope that I can one day try the M10....:D

I don't know if the not good pictures I have are due to the age, as I always got some percentage of lemons in my production, at any age...:rolleyes:

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I'm at the tender age of 88 - - macular degeneration in my right eye and the beginnings of epiretinal membrane in my left. So, I use my left eye to focus and frame. Lately, I've switched to using my 24mm, set @ 5.6, distance @ 10 feet. The DOF covers quite a bit of territory. Still shooting trannies.

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At the age of 66 I'm finding manual focussing of my M cameras is slowing me down......

I wonder if others of my age are finding the same but too proud to admit it here?

 

Jeff

Jeff, age has little to do with numbers; it is an attitude of mind! That helps me overcome life's little handicaps.

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Statistically speaking I have an impression that M owners live to an older age than other population groups.;)

 

That appears to be a common misconception. In fact, M users don't live longer than others; they just look older. :)

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That appears to be a common misconception. In fact, M users don't live longer than others; they just look older. :)

 

Due to the strain of hiding camera shop receipts from SWMBO?

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