maccaco Posted July 1, 2011 Share #1 Posted July 1, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) For the shutter, what advantage has put it in discreet mode instead of the standard? Will it last longer shutter? ¿Hold the shutter more shots? Or is only for reasons of sound? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted July 1, 2011 Share #2 Posted July 1, 2011 The shutter is still performing the same actions - firing, then reloading - whichever mode the camera is in, so I wouldn't expect it to make any difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted July 1, 2011 Share #3 Posted July 1, 2011 The advantage is that you can fire the shutter, a short 'clonk', and while keeping your finger pressed down on the trigger postpone the noise, from the re-cocking of the shutter, by letting go of the trigger, when you can muffle this noise after lowering or shielding the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 1, 2011 Share #4 Posted July 1, 2011 Erik, I know, but the OP was asking about the effect on the shutter itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaco Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted July 1, 2011 I read that a shutter takes about 100,000 shots (I think they are few) so I wonder if discreet mode to make the number of shots is greater. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holybasil Posted July 1, 2011 Share #6 Posted July 1, 2011 I read that a shutter takes about 100,000 shots (I think they are few) so I wonder if discreet mode to make the number of shots is greater. No. It is there because the 8.2 got a quiet shutter and the regular M8 people felt badly treated. And to prevent getting punched in the face by a subject noticing you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted July 1, 2011 Share #7 Posted July 1, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) For the shutter, what advantage has put it in discreet mode instead of the standard? Will it last longer shutter? ¿Hold the shutter more shots? Or is only for reasons of sound? Regards Seems to me you, Stunsworth, answered the first part, I mealy pointed out the sound part... Just to be clear; the blades travel at very high speeds and the discrete setting has no impact at all on that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Black Posted July 1, 2011 Share #8 Posted July 1, 2011 Seems to me you, Stunsworth, answered the first part, I mealy pointed out the sound part... Just to be clear; the blades travel at very high speeds and the discrete setting has no impact at all on that... Erik, allow me to ask you on this one,it is been said that the discreet mode can damage the shutter, or dimmish its durability, Is this true? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 1, 2011 Share #9 Posted July 1, 2011 And if not, as i suspect, what's the point of using the standard mode at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucek Posted July 1, 2011 Share #10 Posted July 1, 2011 And if not, as i suspect, what's the point of using the standard mode at all? Continuous shooting mode. IIRC one is not supposed to try to use Discreet Shutter mode when trying to also use Continuous shooting. Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 1, 2011 Share #11 Posted July 1, 2011 True before firmware update 2.005 but not any more IINW. I hope so at least as i never use standard mode personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted July 1, 2011 Share #12 Posted July 1, 2011 Erik, allow me to ask you on this one,it is been said that the discreet mode can damage the shutter, or dimmish its durability, Is this true? Thank you As you can see in , slow motion, high speed video of a similar quality Nikon D3 shutter, the shutter curtains take quite a beating while stopping... but they settle quite fast so it really doesn't matter if there is a short or a long time between the stop and when they start again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindolfi Posted July 1, 2011 Share #13 Posted July 1, 2011 Here's a 48 times slowed down action and recocking of the M9 shutter (same as in the M8) in standard mode I filmed with included time data in the frames: It looks like the closing of the second shutter curtain is the most violent part of the action (you can see the blades move out of their plane at landing). Recocking is a lot smoother. Since the closing of the second shutter curtain needs to be done anyway, there is most likely no difference in wear in the discrete or standard mode, since it only involves a delay in recocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted July 1, 2011 Share #14 Posted July 1, 2011 Thanks, didn't find it with my quick search. The blades starting and stopping action is as predicted very similar, although the fps is a little slower... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_newell Posted July 2, 2011 Share #15 Posted July 2, 2011 As you can see in , slow motion, high speed video of a similar quality Nikon D3 shutter, the shutter curtains take quite a beating while stopping... but they settle quite fast so it really doesn't matter if there is a short or a long time between the stop and when they start again... Consistent with your point, the curtain speed at 4k and 8k is presumably the same, the difference in exposure being regulated by the distance between the curtains. (?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted July 2, 2011 Share #16 Posted July 2, 2011 I think not, John. Remember, X synch dropped from 1/250 to 1/180 sec with the slower shutter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_newell Posted July 2, 2011 Share #17 Posted July 2, 2011 I think not, John. Remember, X synch dropped from 1/250 to 1/180 sec with the slower shutter. Interesting and good point, Howard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trs Posted July 5, 2011 Share #18 Posted July 5, 2011 Erik, allow me to ask you on this one,it is been said that the discreet mode can damage the shutter, or dimmish its durability, Is this true? I have personally experienced the shutter damage case. But, if you have firmware with the fix, no more an issue. It cost me ~$550 to get mine fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfspencer Posted July 7, 2011 Share #19 Posted July 7, 2011 The advantage is that you can fire the shutter, a short 'clonk', and while keeping your finger pressed down on the trigger postpone the noise, from the re-cocking of the shutter, by letting go of the trigger, when you can muffle this noise after lowering or shielding the camera. Thanks, Erik. I noticed "discreet mode" in my menu choices but I couldn't figure out what it did. Now I know. I learn something every day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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