Gavlister Posted June 28, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 28, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi I'm sure this has come up before but does anyone have any opinion on how scratch proof the screen is on the 8.2? I am just wondering if I should still get a screen cover for it? thanks Gavin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Henry Posted June 28, 2011 Share #2 Posted June 28, 2011 Gavin, Welcome to the forum ! I posted on this thread * , the need to still have a protective film on the screen.Scratches (micro-scratches) may exist on the sapphire even though it is very resistant Best Henry * http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/92689-film-rag-m8.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 28, 2011 Share #3 Posted June 28, 2011 Been using watches with sapphire glass for decades and they are bump and scratch resistant. Didn't try to drop my M8.2 though so i use the thin and almost invisible ScreenPatronus Screen Protector on it for sake of precaution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 28, 2011 Share #4 Posted June 28, 2011 I've had the Sapphire screen on my M8u for two and a half years and there's not a scratch to be seen. Sapphire glass is second to diamond on the Mohs' scale of hardness. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted June 28, 2011 Share #5 Posted June 28, 2011 I bought my M8.2 second hand, the previous owner had it a year and I had it 4 months (before catching the M9 bug). The screen looked like new, needing only a quick wipe with a cleaning cloth to shine. No micro scratches, no imperfections. Sapphire glass is expensive stuff, and not everyone feels it is necessary (and they're right, it isn't). However in my case i loved not worrying about the screen. My X1 LCD has lots of little scratches, and even though I now have a Giottos protector on the camera I hate this "bandaid" approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted June 28, 2011 Share #6 Posted June 28, 2011 I couldn't see any scratches on my M8U sapphire unless I fogged it with my breath to wipe off finger smudges. Fogged, there were tons of little fine scratches everywhere. I suppose those scratches are in the anti-reflective coating, not the glass itself. The same is true of watches with sapphire crystals, which is why the better ones only have the A/R coating on the inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted June 29, 2011 Share #7 Posted June 29, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have a look at my M8.2 after one year of daily use: stuff… - a set on Flickr There cannot be seen one scratch on the LCD cover, which in my opinion make this absolutely the right choice, to protect the LCD screen. Leica should not offer any lesser solution than this sapphire screen on their digital cameras. I don't know, what Nikon uses on the D3, but that screen as well is extremely tough to collect scratches. The choice of the lesser screen on the regular M9 is a bad one by Leica IMO. People should not be worried, to use screen protectors on these cameras. If you have a M8.2, be happy and don't sweat scratches on the screen, the paint is much, much less tough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaMSeattle Posted June 29, 2011 Share #8 Posted June 29, 2011 My upgraded M8 had the sapphire crystal installed for the last two years of daily use with no protective film, the surface remains flawless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 29, 2011 Share #9 Posted June 29, 2011 My M8 screen has a scratch but my M8-2 does not - after identical treatment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted June 29, 2011 Share #10 Posted June 29, 2011 I've had the Sapphire screen on my M8u for two and a half years and there's not a scratch to be seen. +1 Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted June 29, 2011 Share #11 Posted June 29, 2011 Same here nearly 2 years and clean and scratch free as first day. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve Posted June 30, 2011 Share #12 Posted June 30, 2011 Yes, the sapphire glass does live up to its name and cost. no scratches on mine too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted June 30, 2011 Share #13 Posted June 30, 2011 To illustrate, my wrist watch's casing and band is made from titanium (the real stuff, not 'titanisiert'), the glass is saphire glass. I bought it early 1997 and have been using it daily since. The titanium has scratches, the glass does not. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fWord Posted June 30, 2011 Share #14 Posted June 30, 2011 As some watch users here have noted, the experience we've had with sapphire glass on a watch should be very good news for users of the M8.2. A while back I used to keenly read about Rado watches and bought a couple of them off Ebay. One of them has a sapphire glass with tungsten bezel and most of the watch case and glass is scratch-free. Some very fine scratches do exist, but this is for a watch that is over 30 years old. In fact, I've only occasionally seen badly scratched sapphire-glassed Rados on sale and wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. Considering how hard it is to scratch sapphire, those watches must have been dragged along the pavement for several miles! If Leica ever desires to produce a near scratchproof camera, they could try using a combination of ceramics and sapphire glass in the future. It would be very nice to look at and will likely be obscenely expensive. Strictly for the collectors only, who ironically are least likely to scratch their cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominum Posted June 30, 2011 Share #15 Posted June 30, 2011 To illustrate, my wrist watch's casing and band is made from titanium (the real stuff, not 'titanisiert'), the glass is saphire glass. I bought it early 1997 and have been using it daily since. The titanium has scratches, the glass does not.Carl Actually Titanium is pretty bad at being scratch resistant. It scratches more easily than Stainless Steel! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 30, 2011 Share #16 Posted June 30, 2011 ...i use the thin and almost invisible ScreenPatronus Screen Protector on it for sake of precaution. Bad idea sorry, this screen unsticks too easily from the LCD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavlister Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share #17 Posted July 2, 2011 Thanks for the replies. I was a bit concerned when apple said their iphone is scratch free so didn't put a guard on it and now it has many scratches!! Obviously this is a bit more hardy than the iphone glass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 2, 2011 Share #18 Posted July 2, 2011 As i said above, sorry to disappoint you but from what I've read you can have this : TimeZone: TZ Classics: How to remove a scratch from a sapphire crystal. and I know that sapphire is as hard as diamond in Moh's scale and is classified after diamond Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted July 2, 2011 Share #19 Posted July 2, 2011 Thanks for the replies. I was a bit concerned when apple said their iphone is scratch free so didn't put a guard on it and now it has many scratches!! Obviously this is a bit more hardy than the iphone glass Beware, there are still a few basic common sense rules, to be obeyed (be it iPhone or Leica M): Don't throw your camera/ phone carelessly into a bag with your keys, money, tools. Don't slam your camera LCD face down on a table. Clean your pocket/ camera bag regularly form that beach sand, you filled it with last holiday season. … Probably my M has a non scratched LCD, because I am not a Neanderthal, handling it careless, while normal brassing occurs as of the weak paint and just use as a camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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