250swb Posted March 1, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 1, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Surly you can gaspthe principal in the method without finding fault! quote] “It is easier to produce ten volumes of philosophical writing than to put one principle into practice” - Leo Tolstoy 1828 - 1910 In other words, its all very well saying what you know, but it doesn't mean a thing if you can't do it. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Hi 250swb, Take a look here Part of my M is missing. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted March 1, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 1, 2011 Gee, how I could I not know the camera is painted?? Lord I am not a complete idiot yet.quote] Ummm... The camera is not painted. It is powder-coated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted March 1, 2011 Share #23 Posted March 1, 2011 If you wish to be certain of getting a good key for the white paint, why not use an etching primer first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted March 1, 2011 Share #24 Posted March 1, 2011 I have found that the easiest way to remove the paint in the engravings was to use a wooden tooth pick, the type with points at both ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 1, 2011 Share #25 Posted March 1, 2011 I'd just get the M9 engraving set in diamonds, and be done with it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebidwell Posted March 1, 2011 Share #26 Posted March 1, 2011 I'd just get the M9 engraving set in diamonds, and be done with it! My sentiments entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 1, 2011 Share #27 Posted March 1, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'd just get the M9 engraving set in diamonds, and be done with it! and then cover it with black paint... how wonderfully understated would that be! brass showing a bit at the edges... pfffff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted March 1, 2011 Share #28 Posted March 1, 2011 and then cover it with black paint... how wonderfully understated would that be! brass showing a bit at the edges... pfffff! Use coal instead. Same element, lower cost, less pressure too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 1, 2011 Share #29 Posted March 1, 2011 Use coal instead. Same element, lower cost, less pressure too. are you suggesting he uses coal rather than diamonds... how plebeian... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted March 1, 2011 Share #30 Posted March 1, 2011 250swb/Steve, Sorry buddy it's you who can't do it…. I can. I have never done an M9 because I have had no reason to. But I have done similar jobs that were even more precise and delicate. It takes skill, experience, knowledge of your tools and TIME …. at Leica time is money so this is just one of many cost cutting short cuts: one of the many mentioned or complained about here. For instance…. to "sand" tiny places you carefully use a Cratex abrasive rubber pointed cylinder on a mandrel and shape the point with a razor blade to fit your need. Yes, it is careful work…. but hardly impossible Cheers. Mold Shop Tools - CRATEX Cones - Cylinders & Bullets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted March 1, 2011 Share #31 Posted March 1, 2011 AdiM, if I were freezing, I'd rather have a ton of coal to burn than a ton of diamonds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblutter Posted March 1, 2011 Share #32 Posted March 1, 2011 I filled mine with flat black enamel paint, wiped off the excess - lookin' good for a year. M9 will eventually be a great backup for the M10 - I don't see selling it off for a long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted March 1, 2011 Share #33 Posted March 1, 2011 Actually, I'm not a big fan of that white M9 either. I'm glad you like it better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted March 1, 2011 Share #34 Posted March 1, 2011 Nicole, Etching primer is great on bare metal but not necessary here as the black finish would not etch with this substrate. The old rule of surface finish applies here: "the top coat is only as good as the the binder beneath it." The adhesion of the black is excellent. Just a little roughing up and cleaning will insure a good bond between the white overlay and base black. If you are really particular a self adhesive mask can be easily made in Photoshop and printed on self-adhesive plastic …. which is then carefully cut-out and applied over the logo. With proper masking of the body: application could be done with an air- bush. However, a high quality artist's brush and good self-leveling paint would be far easier and just as effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted March 2, 2011 Share #35 Posted March 2, 2011 jappv, I strongly suspected such but I did not know for sure. Thanks for the info. But, for the purpose of adding an additional layer of paint, it doesn't matter… same rules apply. One thing for sure: powder coating is impervious to most solvents that can be applied for cleaning! (or removing the original white M9 filler paint for that matter) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannybuoy Posted March 2, 2011 Share #36 Posted March 2, 2011 Yep, I believe the technical term is 'keying' the surface. A basic principle in painting smooth surfaces. I guess the best way to key the surface behind the White paint would be to use a scalpel blade to make a few grooves. Then paint would stand a better chance of adhering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted March 2, 2011 Share #37 Posted March 2, 2011 You are quite correct in your terminology as "keying" is the accepted term. Yes, you could use a blade very, very, lightly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 2, 2011 Share #38 Posted March 2, 2011 This thing happened to my black chrome M8, and after just a few weeks. When I tired of this situation, I just removed all the white with acetone on a cotton wad. I would hesitate to do this to a painted camera, however. Anyone who has tried it? But that unsightly white logo should be removed. It looks vulgar. The best-looking M since the 1960's is the MP (though I have no reall quarrel with the red circle, which after all serves the useful purpose of keeping fools with screwdrivers off the adjustment screw ...) I do hope that the Gnomes will delete that glaring neon sign. A Leica M is its own brand logo. Those who know what a Leica is, will spot it at fifty meters, lettering or no lettering. The majority who have never heard about it will not be impressed by the model label because they don't understand it. They just see an old-fashioned camera, which is fine by me. I also hate clothing with large brand labels on it. Quality should be seen by the cut, and the material, and the taste of the wearer. The label should be seen only by an occasional dry-cleaner. The insuffferably elitist old man I went a similar way with my M8.2. This is an older photo, after I had the camera for about half a year. I find the white paint less engravings on a black paint camera even more beautiful, as they start to brass exactly, where my right middle finger holds the camera over the logo. Before someone asks (with todays artificially aged available Leicas on eBay), this is an early, mild brassing and she is an all natural, although looking more naked today after more time of daily use passed ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted March 2, 2011 Share #39 Posted March 2, 2011 AdiM, if I were freezing, I'd rather have a ton of coal to burn than a ton of diamonds. Dear Nicole, if you had a ton of diamonds, heating would not be much of a concern...you'd probably be lying on a lounge chair by a tropical beach, wondering why one of your Ms has lost a leg... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted March 2, 2011 Share #40 Posted March 2, 2011 Menos M6: Good looking machine and a real nice picture of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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